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Do You Think There Would Have Been a Large Protest if Steve Huffman Just Said We're Charging to Use the API to Increase Revenue? (beehaw.org)

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I've been a long time Redditor and an Apollo user for about a year. I even paid for it. The main draw for me was the lack of advertising. In the back of my head I kept thinking that it couldn't last. Reddit is losing revenue from the lack of advertising views. It didn't

To me, Reddit's sky high pricing for the use of the API is intended to kill off apps like Apollo and for its users to move to the advertising filled web site or its own app, which I've never used.

If Huffman came out and said this was a revenue move right off would everyone be as upset as they are? Are people upset because Huffman completely mishandled the move or because they got their ad free experience turned off? If Reddit had an app the same quality as Apollo only with ads, would they be OK with it. I've only used Apollo so I can't speak to the other apps.

I can't blame Reddit for wanting to make money. It doesn't make a profit. Investors have to keep pouring in money to keep it going. They're going to want to see a return on their investment at some point. Usually they cash in on an IPO, but IPO's are generally only successful if the corporation looks like it will be profitable or at least the stock price continues to go up. That's how capitalism works.

In my case, I probably would have left regardless. I can't stand adds in my feed. I probably wouldn't have heard of lemmy or kbin if there hadn't been such an uproar. So I'm glad it went the way it did.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I haven't heard anyone say that they're upset because Reddit needed money. Actually I've heard more understanding people, they wanted Reddit to stay alive and were willing to possibly say yes to subscriptions/ad based content.

But spez completely shit the bed on the entire thing. Giving them the crazy high prices, the incredibly short deadline, hiding the pricing for those 2 months, then trying to blame it on AI, and just everything. Yes, if they had a level headed leader at the front of their corporation I could very well see myself preparing to pay a couple bucks a month to Reddit to get a good experience, they could get their "Residual Income".

Instead he had to go all megalomaniac and demand everyone bend to his will - and I left permanently.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

well shoot. this sums it up so well, there's nothing to add.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I used to pay for a reddit gold to support the site because Ai (naively) beloved it was a worthwhile investment in a website that connected disparate, niche communities and served as a repository of knowledge.

Don't I look like an idiot now. Fuck u/spez

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Once my reddit gold ran out from buying Alien Blue, I've been paying for it ever since, since I wanted the site to succeed, and I never saw any of the ads. It felt like the right thing to do, but once all this shit with spez being a total dick went down, I cancelled my autopay, so it won't renew again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Take that money and contribute it to a worthwhile cause on this instance. :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Yup, same. Paid for premium to avoid ads. Have now canceled and poking around Lemmy and Mastedon to fill the niche.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

We all did.

Take that money and contribute it to a worthwhile cause on this instance. :)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

Yep. The headline could have been “Reddit to start charging for Premium if users want to use third party apps” and it would’ve been and gone in a day or two.

Instead, Huffman’s ego stepped in and he gave media cycle red meat with how he’s handled this. The story now is how aggressive, dishonest, and incompetent he looks. I think there’s a lot yet left to be written about a tech company that relies entirely on the health of its community treating members of that community so poorly and so openly attributing that to $$$.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Exactly. I was planning to just migrate to their official app after July 1. I mean yes the app may be an ad filled shitty experience but such can be said as well for Facebook and Instagram. Companies need money and I am perfectly fine with that.

It's Huffman's AMA that made me actively seeking Reddit alternatives. It was that bad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

The other side of it for me was I didn’t want to deal with the inevitable increase in data collection that Reddit signaled it would be doing to increase ad revenue