Android is struggling to keep its market share in the United States, as Apple continues to take over in the market. But, despite Android as a whole losing ground, Google Pixel phones are becoming a bigger slice of the US market.

Counterpoint Research reports that, in Q2 2023, US smartphone shipments dropped by 24% year-over-year. That includes both iPhones and Android phones, and virtually every brand saw a drop in shipments. Samsung saw US shipments drop by 37% while Motorola saw a 17% drop. TCL saw the biggest decline at just shy of 70% year-over-year, and even Apple saw a 6% drop.

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[–] 11 points 3 years ago (8 children)

My Android phone fucking blows. The one I had prior was great but I lost it. I hate the constant alerts from the apps I can't delete, I can't take up close photos anymore without it looking like shit and not focusing, the screen will flip horizontal at random times when it's got the lock screen option turned on. I don't want a Google phone, though.

Anyone have opinions on the OnePlus phones?

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Apps you can't delete? Gotta be Samsung?

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I used to have a Samsung Galaxy S6, I rooted it so I could remove the facebook app... turned out they built a custom circuit in a little chip that permanently breaks NFC if you rooted it. Ridiculous.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I rooted it so I could remove the facebook app

    Why would you even bother doing this instead of simply permanently disabling it using the built in features?

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I found not being able to remove the app frustrating, and wanted to go further than disable it. My thinking was, it's my phone, I want it setup my way, and I don't want bloat... especially facebook bloat on the phone.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    Once it’s disabled it may as well be not there.

    If it’s anything like any of my Samsung phones I’ve had, Facebook isn’t actually installed - the icon is just a stub. Opening it takes you to the store to download the actual app. Might be different where you are or if you bought a carrier phone though, I only ever buy outright from manufacturers or stores, never carrier.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    You can adb disable them. Not the same as a full removal, if you wipe/reset the phone they come back, but for most purposes they're effectively gone. Do a backup first, if you remove one too many or the wrong one, and other apps might start crashing.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Look into a Nothing Phone as well as you look.

    I'm biased but I like my Pixel 7 Pro quite a bit, though the Pixel 7 is also good.

    Doesn't really matter if it's a Google phone or not though: They track you the exact same unless you fully rip out all Google Services, which also means ripping out all banking apps and the Play store.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    Yeah, that's a good point. I feel like in terms of tracking you have to unplug completely to be successful. No Square card readers, no social media, no Google anything, not to mention having to vet every service you use which doesn't feel like it would be worth it.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago*

    I've been using oneplus phones for years and theyre awesome but I'm not running the oxygenOS that it comes with, I'm running lineageOS or other AOSP type of roms.

    Haven't messed with the stock oxygen (I think it's called ColorOS now?) in a while, but maybe will check it out. Far as I knew it didn't really come with any bloat ware?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    oneplus has its own sort of problems
    I've heard ram management sucks on oneplus 11 with 12 GB ram because they keep killing apps in background to preserve battery(even after using the phone for weeks so it should've adapted)

    you should give grapheneos on pixel a try I'm using it on pixel 7 and all the apps that I use work(mostly, only bank apps have problems, check this user contributed list for verified bank apps https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/

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