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Signal Is More Than Encrypted Messaging. Under Meredith Whittaker, It’s Out to Prove Surveillance Capitalism Wrong (www.wired.com)
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[–] 72 points 2 years ago* (10 children)

Signal always responds to authorities when they ask for data, and they give them all they have: the day they registered, their phone number and the timestamp they last used the app.

Telegram has unencrypted channels of drug dealing, and what I heard is a lot of illegal porn too. The authorities want information on certain users there and Telegram doesn't comply. This is directly against the law Signal is not breaking, because they always send all the data they have to the law enforcement.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    Telegram is a propaganda weapon in some sense, between two worldviews - one is "a good service doesn't require trust, because they physically can't sell you", another is "a good service you can trust because they won't sell you". And Telegram helps the latter.

    So frankly - kill it with fire. Sadly I'm in Russia and everybody uses it here.

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  • [+] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)
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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    But they give their data when the officials ask. That is all that matters. And I seriously hope none of us uses Telegram or WhatsApp to any discussions. Use Signal because that is so far pretty unbreakable.

    Telegram is already in the hands of that tiny Russian old man and WhatsApp is owned by a lizard.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Yeah, try telling your family, friends, colleagues, therapist to use Signal.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Did so years ago. Everybody uses it from my family and friends. I've had a very active group chat there for eight years with friends. My mom uses it actively, even calls me using Signal. My partner knows it is the best chat app and actively uses it.

    I just asked ages ago for everybody to switch to signal, they valuated the features and for a group chat automatically deleted messages and strong encryption were really interesting for everybody. Now we can shoot shit in a group chat without needing to worry that the logs are stored somewhere forever.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago*

    All of the illegal stuff like that that I've seen around on social media always linked to telegram channels. Most of the time what you see on regular social media are bots advertising the telegram channels, where the real people are at

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