▲ 521 ▼ Megathread, Special Prosecutor Jack Smith Indicted Trump on 3 more felony charges. (lemmy.world) submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by outrageousmatter@lemmy.world [M] to c/politics@lemmy.world 111 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/27/us/politics/trump-documents-carlos-de-oliveira-charged.html https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/27/feds-add-new-charges-against-trump-in-classified-documents-case-00108667
[+] 4grams@lemmy.world 40 points 3 years ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 11 points 3 years ago how long I can believe that my fellow humans are capable of believing this. stop assuming they're stupid and start realizing that they see in his corruption a chance to do a little bit of corruption of their own, maybe some political violence, all the absolute worst urges in them. they see in him the real liberty they've been seeking: the freedom to harm others and enrich themselves. they claim to believe, but really they're just relying on the fact that you can't actually go into their brains and prove that they don't. permalink fedilink source parent [+] solidgrue@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] whofearsthenight@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) Dude no. I'm a wrestling fan, I have friends who are wrestling fans, and trust me, absolutely none of us are buying this shit. Even as a wrestling storyline, this does not make sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] solidgrue@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] whofearsthenight@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Oh for sure. This is probably an occasion where the venn diagram of groups I cross over with is a little sketch, but still lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] meldroc@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago I predict a significant number would get bored when Trump either dies or ends up in prison, and can't get his face in front of news cameras nearly so easily. permalink fedilink source parent [–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) you're underestimating how gay and self-aware wrestling is right now by some distance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] solidgrue@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I actually thought the implication was the opposite, as in the WWE is not nearly as conservative as the people who watch it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 5 points 3 years ago that was almost it. for the WCW that I grew up with in the 80s and 90s it would have been exactly it. people tended to forget that wrestling is theater, the tyler durden effect takes hold and people who are (or aspire to be) like the characters these wrestlers play miss out on the fact that these are characters being played by actors. the audience wasn't guaranteed to be 100% in on the joke. nowadays everyone knows. kayfabe is permanently broken and everyone is having a fabulous time. CM Punk shows up with a sign that says "support trans youth", Anthony Bowen has a storyline where one of the female wrestlers tries to seduce him only to be shut down by the crowd spontaneously (and very supportively) chanting "He's gay". There are dozens of out LGBTQ wrestlers across the major and minor promotions. Professional wrestling is very gay. It always has been, but only in the era of the smart mark have they started to be open about it and that openness has helped them find a shockingly deep well of support among the fans. permalink fedilink source parent [–] meldroc@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* I know right? Everyone keeps calling him a mob boss, but I'd say he's more the mob boss who's so fucking stupid, he doesn't know not to say the quiet part out loud. The only occupation that could be worse would be a spy that's too stupid to know not to say the quiet part out loud, so let's be glad Trump wasn't charged with... Ooooooh.... permalink fedilink source parent [–] solstice@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* Yeah people have unrealistic expectations of villainy these days after hollywood set the bar so high with all their criminal mastermind tropes. I suppose it's a good thing that most criminals are really dumb because as you said, half the country barely cares. If he'd been even remotely smart about it.. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 11 points 3 years ago how long I can believe that my fellow humans are capable of believing this. stop assuming they're stupid and start realizing that they see in his corruption a chance to do a little bit of corruption of their own, maybe some political violence, all the absolute worst urges in them. they see in him the real liberty they've been seeking: the freedom to harm others and enrich themselves. they claim to believe, but really they're just relying on the fact that you can't actually go into their brains and prove that they don't. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] solidgrue@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] whofearsthenight@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) Dude no. I'm a wrestling fan, I have friends who are wrestling fans, and trust me, absolutely none of us are buying this shit. Even as a wrestling storyline, this does not make sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] solidgrue@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] whofearsthenight@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Oh for sure. This is probably an occasion where the venn diagram of groups I cross over with is a little sketch, but still lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] meldroc@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago I predict a significant number would get bored when Trump either dies or ends up in prison, and can't get his face in front of news cameras nearly so easily. permalink fedilink source parent [–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) you're underestimating how gay and self-aware wrestling is right now by some distance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] solidgrue@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I actually thought the implication was the opposite, as in the WWE is not nearly as conservative as the people who watch it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 5 points 3 years ago that was almost it. for the WCW that I grew up with in the 80s and 90s it would have been exactly it. people tended to forget that wrestling is theater, the tyler durden effect takes hold and people who are (or aspire to be) like the characters these wrestlers play miss out on the fact that these are characters being played by actors. the audience wasn't guaranteed to be 100% in on the joke. nowadays everyone knows. kayfabe is permanently broken and everyone is having a fabulous time. CM Punk shows up with a sign that says "support trans youth", Anthony Bowen has a storyline where one of the female wrestlers tries to seduce him only to be shut down by the crowd spontaneously (and very supportively) chanting "He's gay". There are dozens of out LGBTQ wrestlers across the major and minor promotions. Professional wrestling is very gay. It always has been, but only in the era of the smart mark have they started to be open about it and that openness has helped them find a shockingly deep well of support among the fans. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] whofearsthenight@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) Dude no. I'm a wrestling fan, I have friends who are wrestling fans, and trust me, absolutely none of us are buying this shit. Even as a wrestling storyline, this does not make sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] solidgrue@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] whofearsthenight@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Oh for sure. This is probably an occasion where the venn diagram of groups I cross over with is a little sketch, but still lol permalink fedilink source parent
[+] solidgrue@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] whofearsthenight@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Oh for sure. This is probably an occasion where the venn diagram of groups I cross over with is a little sketch, but still lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] whofearsthenight@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Oh for sure. This is probably an occasion where the venn diagram of groups I cross over with is a little sketch, but still lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] meldroc@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago I predict a significant number would get bored when Trump either dies or ends up in prison, and can't get his face in front of news cameras nearly so easily. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) you're underestimating how gay and self-aware wrestling is right now by some distance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] solidgrue@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I actually thought the implication was the opposite, as in the WWE is not nearly as conservative as the people who watch it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 5 points 3 years ago that was almost it. for the WCW that I grew up with in the 80s and 90s it would have been exactly it. people tended to forget that wrestling is theater, the tyler durden effect takes hold and people who are (or aspire to be) like the characters these wrestlers play miss out on the fact that these are characters being played by actors. the audience wasn't guaranteed to be 100% in on the joke. nowadays everyone knows. kayfabe is permanently broken and everyone is having a fabulous time. CM Punk shows up with a sign that says "support trans youth", Anthony Bowen has a storyline where one of the female wrestlers tries to seduce him only to be shut down by the crowd spontaneously (and very supportively) chanting "He's gay". There are dozens of out LGBTQ wrestlers across the major and minor promotions. Professional wrestling is very gay. It always has been, but only in the era of the smart mark have they started to be open about it and that openness has helped them find a shockingly deep well of support among the fans. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] solidgrue@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I actually thought the implication was the opposite, as in the WWE is not nearly as conservative as the people who watch it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 5 points 3 years ago that was almost it. for the WCW that I grew up with in the 80s and 90s it would have been exactly it. people tended to forget that wrestling is theater, the tyler durden effect takes hold and people who are (or aspire to be) like the characters these wrestlers play miss out on the fact that these are characters being played by actors. the audience wasn't guaranteed to be 100% in on the joke. nowadays everyone knows. kayfabe is permanently broken and everyone is having a fabulous time. CM Punk shows up with a sign that says "support trans youth", Anthony Bowen has a storyline where one of the female wrestlers tries to seduce him only to be shut down by the crowd spontaneously (and very supportively) chanting "He's gay". There are dozens of out LGBTQ wrestlers across the major and minor promotions. Professional wrestling is very gay. It always has been, but only in the era of the smart mark have they started to be open about it and that openness has helped them find a shockingly deep well of support among the fans. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I actually thought the implication was the opposite, as in the WWE is not nearly as conservative as the people who watch it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 5 points 3 years ago that was almost it. for the WCW that I grew up with in the 80s and 90s it would have been exactly it. people tended to forget that wrestling is theater, the tyler durden effect takes hold and people who are (or aspire to be) like the characters these wrestlers play miss out on the fact that these are characters being played by actors. the audience wasn't guaranteed to be 100% in on the joke. nowadays everyone knows. kayfabe is permanently broken and everyone is having a fabulous time. CM Punk shows up with a sign that says "support trans youth", Anthony Bowen has a storyline where one of the female wrestlers tries to seduce him only to be shut down by the crowd spontaneously (and very supportively) chanting "He's gay". There are dozens of out LGBTQ wrestlers across the major and minor promotions. Professional wrestling is very gay. It always has been, but only in the era of the smart mark have they started to be open about it and that openness has helped them find a shockingly deep well of support among the fans. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 5 points 3 years ago that was almost it. for the WCW that I grew up with in the 80s and 90s it would have been exactly it. people tended to forget that wrestling is theater, the tyler durden effect takes hold and people who are (or aspire to be) like the characters these wrestlers play miss out on the fact that these are characters being played by actors. the audience wasn't guaranteed to be 100% in on the joke. nowadays everyone knows. kayfabe is permanently broken and everyone is having a fabulous time. CM Punk shows up with a sign that says "support trans youth", Anthony Bowen has a storyline where one of the female wrestlers tries to seduce him only to be shut down by the crowd spontaneously (and very supportively) chanting "He's gay". There are dozens of out LGBTQ wrestlers across the major and minor promotions. Professional wrestling is very gay. It always has been, but only in the era of the smart mark have they started to be open about it and that openness has helped them find a shockingly deep well of support among the fans. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] meldroc@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* I know right? Everyone keeps calling him a mob boss, but I'd say he's more the mob boss who's so fucking stupid, he doesn't know not to say the quiet part out loud. The only occupation that could be worse would be a spy that's too stupid to know not to say the quiet part out loud, so let's be glad Trump wasn't charged with... Ooooooh.... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] solstice@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* Yeah people have unrealistic expectations of villainy these days after hollywood set the bar so high with all their criminal mastermind tropes. I suppose it's a good thing that most criminals are really dumb because as you said, half the country barely cares. If he'd been even remotely smart about it.. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) permalink fedilink source parent