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We chose... poorly (lemmy.world)
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Sometimes, you just need to wipe the drawing board clean and start over. ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿ‘‹ ๐Ÿ”ฅ

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[โ€“] 10 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Is there a name for the ideology that humans should be wiped from the planet for the benefit of the planet and the rest of the organisms on it?

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  • [โ€“] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Eco-fascism, or close to it.

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  • [โ€“] [S] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Eco-fascism would be putting a gun against people's head and telling them to stop destroying our only habitat.

    Acknowledging we're destroying our only habitat isn't eco-fascism, it's just acceptance of the situation.

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  • [โ€“] 11 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    You're erasing the bit where they said humanity must be eliminated.

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  • [โ€“] -1 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    But fascism's primary aim isn't to destroy humanity, it does because it's idiotic, but it's very much the top picture, growthgreed or die.

    Fascism is a philosophy that believes the strong should have and the weak can be used and discarded. Accepting were fucked I'd say is more nilism. Will fascists exploit the chaos from humanity idiocy, fuck yeah they will...

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Fascism is a xenophobic and nationalistic alliance between the middle and upper classes against the lower classes. Eco-fascism takes that to extermination levels to preserve the middle and upper classes in the face of environmental destruction.

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  • [+] -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
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  • [โ€“] 2 points 2 years ago*

    We're all fucked regardless. If you think the facists are going to survive planetary collapse, that's some wishful thinking.

    I don't, I'm a Communist, not a fascist. I don't know how you thought I was implying fascism was a good idea.

    Ah, but I see from your post history you're also an elitist fascist. Anyone not fully aware of dialectical.materialism is clearly subhuman and must be dealt with accordingly. Of course, all for the good of the "lower classes"

    What on Earth are you talking about? Why would I think people who don't study Marxism are "subhuman?" I have never once implied that.

    E: oh I'm on .ml, I though I was shadowed banned all over the tankie wank fests. So, you all still gobbling hard on that xenophobic, transphobe, fascist, imperialist Putin's cock?

    Homophobia and putting words in others mouths, lovely.

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  • [โ€“] [S] -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Humans aren't saying that, our habitat is in response to our actions, as translated by scientist's measurements.

    We can stop. We should stop. We won't stop.

    If that means you want to call our planet an eco-terrorist, that's actually kind of funny. This isn't about humans killing humans. This is about Humans attacking our only habitat as we rely on it for every breath we take and every bite we take, and our habitat responding predictably to our actions.

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Is there a name for the ideology that humans should be wiped from the planet for the benefit of the planet and the rest of the organisms on it?

    Pretty clearly asking for an ideology that states that humans should be exterminated.

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Fatalism is in that mix, too. A very easy way to meet political complexity

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    It seems tangential, perhaps? Like, accepting the fact that nature is going to kick our asses eventually anyway, is what you're getting at? Let me know if that's what you were thinking. ๐Ÿ™‚

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 2 years ago

    Accepting it is a choice with practical consequences. We should work on understanding what is to change and how and focus on doing it.

    Making prophecies about what "Eventually" happens is self handicapping, wich does not help :)

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  • [โ€“] [S] 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I don't think there's a specific one yet, though insults towards such people abound.

    Its certainly an extention of misanthropy though.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misanthropy

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 2 years ago

    Misanthropy involves a negative evaluative attitude toward humanity that is based on humankind's flaws. Misanthropes hold that these flaws characterize all or at least the greater majority of human beings. They claim that there is no easy way to rectify them short of a complete transformation of the dominant way of life.

    I thought this was quite interesting. I think I agree very much with

    there is no easy way to rectify them short of a complete transformation of the dominant way of life

    but not so much with

    these flaws characterize all or at least the greater majority of human beings

    I just think these flaws characterize all or the greater majority of human beings that possess a relative amount of power. That's the real problem. Or perhaps the real problem is that power itself transforms humans and gives them these flaws. I'm not sure if it's the chicken or the egg, kind of thing.

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