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Any Free speech, censorship resistant lemmy, mastodon and fediverse altrnatives ? (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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Hi

I am looking for projects of links agregators or micro blogs, that don't rely on centralized servers and especially no mods. I've had it with mod's power trips. and how personal biases affect heavy moderation.

I want to try something with no governance, maybe p2p, and with better transparency than lemmy.

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[โ€“] 13 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Host your own fediverse (Lemmy/Mastodon) instance. See who defederates from you.

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  • [+] [S] -12 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    No this federation experiment is at the end for me.

    I don't believe in the federation model anymore. I was looking for a p2p protocol like a big bitorrent swarm, something more decentralized where no one has power over the discussions. I want to filter the content I want to consume. I dont't need someone else to decide what I should or should not read. I was hoping for an open network where every node have the same leverage and you only mod your own feed.

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  • [โ€“] 10 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    So basically, you don't want people to be able to defederate from you?

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  • [โ€“] [S] -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

    No I want people to be able to block my post just as I can block other people's posts, but I don't need a moderator to block either my posts or other people's posts to be seen by everybody else engaging in that discussion, thread, theme, hashtag, what ever you name it.

    When blocking is done at an individual level it doesn't silence or shutdown views or ideas from the discussions, every individual is free to not engage with people or ideas they don't agree with, but they shouldn't have the power to block those ideas for everybody else.

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  • [โ€“] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Create your own Lemmy community on your own instance then.

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  • [โ€“] [S] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You kinda intentionally ignoring my point, I was asking for suggestion of different models, even different protocols if they exist. not instance - community - moderation based ones.

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  • [โ€“] 8 points 2 years ago*

    But you could accomplish your goal by just starting your own instance and then refusing to moderate content on it - sure, yourinstance/c/news might not get as much activity (or maybe it will take off) but you can't force people who prefer to have moderation to play in your sandbox. You don't need a new technology, lemmy can do what you want just fine - you can even refuse federation!

    Give it a shot, try running an instance and see the difficulties in dealing with open nazis and bots.

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 2 years ago

    unlike the others I see where you are coming at and it is also a bit of my dream. I would love to block or subscribe or throttle (give a rating that increases or decreases posts in the feed) at any level of individual, group, domain, etc. At the individual level I would like blocking to go both ways. I don't see their content and they don't see mine. I would like it to basically put us in different universes. I would like to be able to subscirbe to folks blocking lists. Im sure there is more that I have not figured out yet but I get where you are coming from.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 2 years ago

    I don't think that's feasible for anyone. Pretty soon your and every other user would be flooded with unwanted content, which will take time off all users individually to filter out. What this will result in is filterlists being made by community members, which the clients will use, some by default so that the system remains usable even for new users.

    I don't see how that would make a meaningful difference.
    I mean sure, technically now it's you who's filtering, but is it really you if 1. the filterlists are maintained by a 3rd party and 2. you don't have the capacity to audit all changes to the filterlists?

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