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hexbear trans mega hits 3098 comments! (lemmy.ml)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/trans@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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i know people here have a sour taste over hexbear but im so happy to see trans spaces on the fediverse popping off, im so done with corporate social media and its great to see.

love seeing hundreds of trans people vibing

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[–] [S] 10 points 2 years ago* (11 children)

People here will be salty about me saying it but I think they're the most trans positive instance. I say this as someone that looks at everything trans related from lemmy.ml on purpose so I can check in on everyone

I feel like people have a lot of unexamined transphobia and thats why they're angry about hexbear, hexbear rabidly defends their trans users. Then of course people just parrot hearsay when hexbear dogpiles someone for being transphobic. Hexbear also defederates from other instances a lot (either because Hexbear considers an instance transphobic or w.e. or because that instance hates dogpiles) so obviously Hexbear people can't defend themselves from slander.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    People here will be salty about me saying it but I think they’re the most trans positive instance. I say this as someone that looks at everything trans related from lemmy.ml on purpose so I can check in on everyone

    Hexbear is very inclusive to trans people that align with its ideology, but it actively allows harassment and "dunking" of anyone, including trans people, who don't align with its ideology. In my opinion, it's hard to be the most inclusive trans instance when you are only inclusive of some trans people, and are willing to harass the rest.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

    Are liberal trans people inclusive and trans positive? I can't say they are when they support neverending wars overseas and jerk off to war criminals that have undoubtedly killed, maimed, or otherwise harmed many trans people, e.g. Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris, etc.

    'Dunking' on them is a pittance in comparison to support for slaughtering our own community.

    Personally, I think you should rethink how you think about your own instance, 196 is a cesspool and its clear that most trans people find it offputting. I first heard of y'all as the 'trans friendly' instance and looked at your front page and saw a complete shitshow on the front page (re: ONLY 196), and obviously you aren't federated with all trans spaces so I chose to go to lemmy instead.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    'Dunking' on them is a pittance in comparison

    This statement is at odds with the claim that they're the most trans inclusive instance around.

    Hexbear is incredibly protective of trans folk that share its views, but it green lights active harassment of trans folk not in that group.

    An instance that is ok with harassment of some trans folk isn't as protective as you're claiming.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    This statement is at odds with the claim that they’re the most trans inclusive instance around.

    Did you not read what I said? Are you that steeped in ideology?

    Liberals support things that are far worse than harassment, they cannot be allowed to support neoliberal ideology in trans spaces without those trans spaces becoming cesspools of reactionary and bigoted thought. Are you ok with trans nazis being here so long as they don't harass anyone? Where does your umbrella end? Indirect support for killing trans people?

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Rather than just banning trans folk who don't align with their politics, or targeting their political ideas, Hexbear actively enables dogpiling and harassing of individual trans folk

    That's not the behaviour of "the most trans positive instance", especially given that Hexbears political ideology is fringe at best, making the majority of trans people valid targets for its harassment.

    Don't get me wrong. Hexbear is incredibly supportive of its trans folk. It's why I tried to make federation with them work for so long. But it's only supportive of its own trans folk. If you don't align with their political stance, you get harassment, not support.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    You absolutely keep dodging the questions I'm asking, are you ok with fascist trans people?

    And no, socialism is absolutely not fringe in the trans community. Maybe in your weird little bubble of liberals and transphobes it is, but in trans places IRL socialism is absolutely what is most common. In fact, its not even fucking close.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Well hey, guess I get to make my second lemmy profile today.

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