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Elon Musk says SpaceX HQ officially moving to Texas, blames new CA trans student privacy law (www.cnbc.com)
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[–] 101 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I feel bad for the reasonable employees at SpaceX - this sucks for decent people.

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  • [–] 61 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    I don't. Look, we already had this discussion years ago. You don't feel bad for the stormtrooper, or their families when you blow up the deathstar. They knew what they were getting into.

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  • [–] 68 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    I’m sure there are plenty of people who started at SpaceX before we all truly knew the monster musk is. Also, the work they are doing is incredibly important. It’s hard to give that up. It shouldn’t be this hard to empathize with people

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    Knowing many people who've worked for him, you have about 6 months at a MuskCo brand company max before you really know what a piece of shit he is, and either a.) leave ASAP, b.) convince yourself it won't be so bad and hang on for ~2 years, or c.) fall into the cult of personality and believe that Daddy Elon loves his little proles and cares very much about all the hard work you're doing [EMPLOYEE NUMBER HERE].

    The absolute last stop on the "Musk is Tony Stark but IRL epic gamer Redditor and likes weed and Rick and Morty!" train was when he called that cave diver a pedophile. It was apparent well before then, but anyone acting like they had no idea what a piece of shit he was after that either didn't hear about it, or was willfully ignorant because they wanted to continue pretending that basing their entire personality around a billionaire wasn't a terrible idea.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I thought that spacex was "incredibly important" once. Now I realize it's a fast track to a more fucked earth. By the time we get to "planet B" "planet A" is going to be a fiery ball of shit.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I’m not saying SpaceX isn’t without valid critiques, but if you don’t see the value of reusable rockets and can’t even give them credit for spearheading that, I’m not sure what else to say. Make no mistake I think Elon Musk is a bigoted piece of shit, but I can also acknowledge that SpaceX has done important work

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Yes, the rocket is reusable. The fuel is not, and by lowering the cost per kg of space freight, it has driven more usage of rockets. Which use non-renewable fuel at astounding rates and make huge emissions for a minor payload total.

    We’re seeing extreme temperatures and unseasonal weather events already - James Webb is cool and the ISS does need service missions but Starlink is just more orbital trash waiting to happen.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Rocket launches are not why climate change is occurring.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Starlink will never be orbital trash in any meaningful way. If everything failed today, they'd all deorbit within 5 years. It's only in higher orbits where shit gets stuck for decades or hundreds of years.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Starlink will never be orbital trash in any meaningful way

    You're right. They'll be atmospheric pollution. That's what "burn up on reentry" means.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Well in that case, 100% of things that we've launched into space are either

    1: Space trash

    2: Atmospheric Trash

    3: Ocean Trash

    Except for the 1st stages of F9 and it's fairings, and one or two first stages of some other small start ups.

    Edit: sorry and the shuttle. In retrospect with the amount of refurbishment it required it wasn't really "reusable" per say, but it did avoid being ocean trash.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    I'd like to see what people's reactions would be if we put all the 6,219 starlink satellites in a pile on the ground and lit them on fire. Would they say "fuck yeah! Fast internet!" or would they say "are you out of your mind?"

    And they plan on having 12,000 or something each lasting about 5 years.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Do you know what all those puffy clouds coming out of the engines at engine cut off and start up are? Kerosene or methane and oxygen. Do you know what injecting methane and kerosene into the upper atmosphere does to the planet? No, no one does because it wasn't ever a problem when there were 5 launches a year. Now that there's 5 launches a month we're getting to the find out stage.

    Same with starlink. What does aerosolized aluminum (and whatever else is "just burning up" on reentry) do to the upper atmosphere? When there were one or two satellites a year how would you know? Now that there's several a month (20 in the last launch that didn't make it up) we'll find out.

    I'm going to go out on a limb and say none of that will prove beneficial to life on earth. But yeah, the rocket is pretty cool.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    But they didn't. The guy had me in the first half when he cried because Buzz Aldrin didn't like him. Elon wasn't always so obvious with his bullshit. There was a time when he looked minted as a purveyor of a bright future - the mask slipped.

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  • [–] 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The mask has been off for at least 8 years.

    No sympathy for anyone who still stans that phony.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    When did he call that rescuer a "pedo"? Because that's when I changed my mind on him forever.

    Edit: It was June 2018.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    I mean, the stormtroopers were largely either conscripted, or they were clones who were raised in it. Very few were actual mercenaries or people who had a choice to join or not. I still feel bad for them.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Stormtroopers is fair. What about maintenance staff?

    What about prisoners?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Does Elon Musk profit off slave labor from prisoners?

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Considering the mining industries for many of the rare earth metals needed? Yeah he does.

    Plus there's the whole apartheid emerald slave mine thing, which is how daddy made the money he got to play with.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    I'm curious, is it reasonable to blame employees for their employers actions like this? I mean to a certain extent perhaps, depending on your position in the company (like if you are part of upper management then you are more responsible obviously).

    Many people are just trying to get by and getting jobs is not easy. Is it okay to blame a person for working somewhere if they don't have much other choice? Capitalism kinda forces you to work within the system like this.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z6SFL5fCCg

    they built another deathstar right? the first one was completed and fully operational before the rebels destroyed it and the second one was still being built when it was blown up

    the first death star was manned by the imperial army only people on board were stormtroopers dignitaries imperials so when they blew it up no problem evil punished

    the second time around it was not even done being built yet was still under construction job of that magnitude would require a hell of lot more manpower than the imperial army had to offer

    bet they brought in independent contractors in on that thing plumbers aluminum siders roofers

    in order to get built quickly and quietly they would hire anyone to do the job you think the average stormtrooper knows how to install a toilet main

    all they know is killing in white uniforms

    all those innocent contractors brought in to do job are killed casualties of a war they had nothing to do with

    alright look you're roofer some juicy government comes your way you got a wife the two kids in suburbia

    this is a government contract with all sort of benefits and along come these left wing militants and blast everything in a three mile radius with their lasers

    they did not ask for that they had no personal politics they were just trying to scrape out a living

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    "Innocent contractors"

    Wtf 🤮

    In my book it doesn't matter if you are building or operating the gas chambers.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm a little surprised that this comment has gotten so many upvotes.

    Would you apply this same logic to the real world? For example, imagine if a manufacturing facility for Lockheed Martin or General Dynamics was bombed and thousands of working class Americans died. These people are building bombs that are being used in an ongoing genocide.

    Would you consider this a heinous terrorist act, or a noble strike in the fight for freedom?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Noble strike.

    Death to american hegemony.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Especially when the job market contracted with all the IT company layoffs, some people may be stuck in jobs they hate because opportunities are few and they'd rather not be homeless or have their kids not have food and so on.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    if you're working at spacex or tesla you're not reasonable.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    ... or xitter.

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