this post was submitted on 26 Jul 2023
43 points (95.7% liked)

Comradeship // Freechat

2153 readers
184 users here now

Talk about whatever, respecting the rules established by Lemmygrad. Failing to comply with the rules will grant you a few warnings, insisting on breaking them will grant you a beautiful shiny banwall.

A community for comrades to chat and talk about whatever doesn't fit other communities

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Been seeing a lot of outrage thrown at them recently their protests and been seeing a lot of people trying to disrupt these protesters for “disrupting” them and that they could cause inconvenience to emergency services but at the same time,I feel as though these actions are necessary sort of to better spread the message since the bourgeois media is going to turn a blind eye to it. So, since I’m not really familiar with the whole thing, I want to see what you think of them.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not about leadership. It's about production. Do you think a socialist society will magically immediately invent a way off the oil hook? Sure, the incentives will be better. Gas guzzlers will go away. Materials, however? Unlikely.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Of course it’s about leadership. If the present leadership pushes oil, then guess what companies and people are going to use?

Also what do you mean “invent”???

Last time I checked we invented the nuclear reactor in 1943, and renewables have been around for decades.

Also there are many many substitutes to plastic in the world. They just aren’t used because plastic is cheaper. Make plastic less cheap? Well now the other materials look very very nice in comparison. Other then extremely niche cases, what materials cannot be substituted away from plastic? What roles can recyclable metal, paper, or plastic-like bio-film, not fill?

We could cut oil consumptions by factors of magnitude over the course of just a few years.