Nato members have pledged their support for an "irreversible path" to future membership for Ukraine, as well as more aid.

While a formal timeline for it to join the military alliance was not agreed at a summit in Washington DC, the military alliance's 32 members said they had "unwavering" support for Ukraine's war effort.

Nato has also announced further integration with Ukraine's military and members have committed €40bn ($43.3bn, £33.7bn) in aid in the next year, including F-16 fighter jets and air defence support.

The bloc's Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said: "Support to Ukraine is not charity - it is in our own security interest."

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[–] 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (16 children)

Sorry, but as Eastern European, we begged for NATO membership because of constant (>200 years) Russian occupation hazard. We only care about America as a strong ally (of many) in the NATO group, there is no imperialism, direct, indirect, effective or otherwise interprettable. It's a purely defensive pact with all its tenets clearly and publicly laid out.

We could not fight back alone and we wouldnt be able to, because just as to Ukraine and as to Nazis, the amount of meat Russia (yes the whole country, not just Putin) is willing to throw into the meatgrinder is incomprehensible.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Also, these sorts don't seem to realize that NATO is on Russia's border regardless of Ukraine's status. Even before Russia invaded and Finland joined NATO.

    They've never looked at a fucking map.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I mean... When they're claiming russia applied to NATO and was rejected... What did you expect, a sound and reasonable mind? They're literally just repeating their propaganda, nothing more.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Oh I know, but I've heard that particular lie about Russia not wanting NATO on their border being behind the invasion way too many times. NATO has literally been bordering Russia since its inception.

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  • [+] -43 points 2 years ago* (8 children)

    Russia might still have invaded without NATO provocation. However while Russia is evil, they do have a very valid point in not wanting NATO next to their border.

    Especially since Russia's NATO application got rejected.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    Russia didn't just cause NATO membership for Ukraine, they're the reason NATO was formed in the first place.

    People should learn about WWII and the roots of these problems. Spend some time with the atrocities coming out of the USSR as they butchered and raped their way through peaceful countries in Europe.

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  • [+] -24 points 2 years ago* (5 children)

    https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2022/2/pdf/220214-factsheet_NATO-Ukraine_Relations_.pdf

    June 2017, the Ukrainian Parliament adopted legislation reinstating membership in NATO as a strategic foreign and security policy objective. In 2019, a corresponding amendment to Ukraine’s Constitution entered into force.

    In September 2020, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy approved Ukraine’s new National Security Strategy, which provides for the development of the distinctive partnership with NATO with the aim of membership in NATO

    Also relevant is Zelensky staging a coup in Ukraine in 2014 to overthrow the Russian puppet regime that was in place at that time. Meaning Russia lost control over Ukraine politically.

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  • [+] -25 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Actually NATO just rejected the Ukrainian application. Looks like we're throwing more Ukrainians into the meat grinder and not fighting ourselves.

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  • [+] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)