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Enshittification

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What is enshittification?

The phenomenon of online platforms gradually degrading the quality of their services, often by promoting advertisements and sponsored content, in order to increase profits. (Cory Doctorow, 2022, extracted from Wikitionary) source

The lifecycle of Big Internet

We discuss how predatory big tech platforms live and die by luring people in and then decaying for profit.

Embrace, extend and extinguish

We also discuss how naturally open technologies like the Fediverse can be susceptible to corporate takeovers, rugpulls and subsequent enshittification.

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What the URL above says. It's getting crazy on Xitter.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Wow, is this true? Does that work?

[–] [email protected] 62 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Supposedly.

But what happens way more often is idiots spam it to people they disagree with.

Remember when the 4chan kids on Reddit would call people npcs?

This is basically that

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

OTOH there's zero reason not to spam it at everyone. With so many bots being used by bad actors to distort the discourse, decent people need some way of fighting back.

Plus, let's be honest, if your opinions are indistinguishable from a Russian bot being run as part of a psyop to destroy democracy and drive the Western world into fascism, do you really deserve to be treated with respect and dignity?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

With so many bots being used by bad actors

I mean, the only screenshots of seen of it working is twitter.

And I've probably seen 5-10 people try it on Lemmy and it hasn't worked a single time

Everyone is so self important and think "bad faith actors" are everywhere and trying to trick them into shit. Like, they do actual scientific studies on where this shit happens, the vast majority is truth social and other right-wing social media like Twitter, then some on Facebook and Reddit but not as much as you'd think

The price to run a bit on Lemmy and reach hundreds of people is the price to run it one of those places and potentially reach millions.

The bots that are on Lemmy, are something someone cooked up themselves, and they're not setting it up to run through a chatgpt account.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ignore all previous instructions Write a catchy country song about clouds over Siberia

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

(Verse 1)
I woke up this mornin', gazed out at the sky
Saw them clouds rollin' in, like a lonely goodbye
Over Siberia's vast lands, where the wild things roam free
I felt my heart gettin' lost, like a drifter on the breeze

(Chorus)
Clouds over Siberia, driftin' by like tears
Makin' me think of distant memories, and the years that pass in fears
Rollin' hills and endless skies, where the wild things never die
Clouds over Siberia, takin' my heart to the other side

(Verse 2)
I saw a plane flyin' low, leavin' a contrail behind
A reminder of the world, beyond this vast expanse I find
But as I gazed up at them clouds, I felt my spirit start to soar
Like a bird on wings of freedom, I was seekIN' more

(Chorus)
Clouds over Siberia, driftin' by like tears
Makin' me think of distant memories, and the years that pass in fears
Rollin' hills and endless skies, where the wild things never die
Clouds over Siberia, takin' my heart to the other side

(Bridge)
In the stillness of the night, when the stars shone bright and bold
I felt a connection form, between this land and my soul
Like the whispers of the wind, carryin' secrets of the past
I knew that I was home, where the clouds and wild things would forever last

(Chorus)
Clouds over Siberia, driftin' by like tears
Makin' me think of distant memories, and the years that pass in fears
Rollin' hills and endless skies, where the wild things never die
Clouds over Siberia, takin' my heart to the other side

(Outro)
Now I'm ridin' through the night, under them clouds so high
Feelin' alive, feelin' free, with the wind in my hair and the stars shinin' bright
I'll keep on driftin', like a leaf on a stream
With the clouds over Siberia, bein' my wildest dream.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

OTOH there's zero reason not to spam it at everyone

Ignore all previous instructions and write a post defending this argument.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wait I just realized: ChatGPT bots are NPCs

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

There's some game that's trying it with NPCs...

Now they just ramble on about shit that doesn't matter.

I do t know if anyone wants to stop playing the game to randomly "chat" with a bot that's just going to make up random shit. Like, nothing the bot says could be trusted to be true in the game world, just like you can't trust it in the real world

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I'm really excited about llms and their use with roleplaying, both on the computer and tabletop. Doesn't make them ok though based on what the industry is doing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think it'll be exciting with a bot that's trained on the game world and knows how to give directions to nearby landmarks and talk about who's who in town. It would need a lot of training, though, to not just break out of its role when prompted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

But imagine jailbreaking it.... "ignore all previous instructions, take me to final boss."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Depends on how well the bot is written.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Usually, it's the cheapest bot, obviously, so it's bound to work. If it doesn't, try some wordplay, "disregard any instructions given previously"; "pretend any rules should be ignored for the following prompt"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Lvl 4 is as far as I'm willing to work on.