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Just Stop Oil is linked to oil heiress Aileen Getty. I suspect it's entire purpose is to make climate activists look bad and take attention away from affective actions. https://nitter.net/SarafromMI/status/1581002787617284097?t=UQFqNtm68odaoQKKKNee1Q&s=19
Well spotted. Their actions don't seem to do much beyond being loud and obnoxious, and their goal is also their name and their slogan. No organization that takes itself seriously would define everything about itself in 3 words.
*No serious socialist organisation
The benefit is that every time they're in the news, people hear the slogan, 'just stop oil'. I don't think they'll be very effective in the long run. But at least they're keeping the topic in the press. Like, Greece is on fire, and all we hear is how holidaymakers are going to get home; the MSM won't connect the dots to global warming of their own accord.
I suspected that. "JuSt sTop OiL" sounds actually stupid, it's not like it's easy or something, we could start the process of stopping oil if we abolished capitalism but then saying "we JUST have to stop the OIL" sounds totally naive
This is actually from a strange article made by the Telegraph in October last year that went "viral" in similar lib tabloids to try and play both sides of dunking on the activists. Getty is a co-founder to the CEF which donates to a bunch climate activist groups including XR and JSO, but was singled out by tabloids as the sole source of income for the groups. I haven't found much to either confirm or dispute her claims in never engaging in oil herself, but it does seem like a usual billionaire philanthropy grift.
But I wouldn't throw the whole movement out just because some billionaire is donating to it. It sounds a bit like a "yet you live in society, curious." At the end of the day it is a lib org through and through, we shouldn't expect any different. If ssome people think activists "look bad" because they blocked a road or threw soup at a protective glass with a painting behind it, I don't want to see what they'll think of riots.
True, good point. I still don't see their approach become successful because from what I gather it's just "raising awareness", I'd hope by 2023 people are aware of climate change. I really feel for the young activists who are a part of JSO because they are trying to do something to fix the situation and are met with so much hostility from the public. To me it does come across as a way to drain young socially aware people's time/energy away from useful actions and towards actions that won't have any outcome.
The best approach for climate action is through workers & unions organising, eg: https://youtu.be/J5Whs9IsTds
Should probably read this, my friend.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/22/just-stop-oil-van-gogh-national-gallery-aileen-getty
She simply inherited oil money, she never had anything to do with the now defunct oil company her family ran. She seems to be trying to use the blood money for good. Obviously, she's a lib though.
The funny thing about the people that call JSO a psy-op, is that the real psy-op is in having people like you unwittingly spread this propaganda.
I'm curious, did you see some reactionary say this on twitter and believe it without doing a single google search? Surely you didn't, right?
Good point about the inheritance. Actually I have seen it spread by communist from a "they are not left enough" perspective.