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FCC chair: Speed standard of 25Mbps down, 3Mbps up isn’t good enough anymore (arstechnica.com)
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FCC chair: Speed standard of 25Mbps down, 3Mbps up isn’t good enough anymore::Chair proposes 100Mbps national standard and an evaluation of broadband prices.

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[–] 41 points 3 years ago* (7 children)

Holy shit, there are people still using 25/3? How the heck can you function with that? I’m not entirely facetious: with trackers and ads and “web 2.0” nonsense and way over provisioning , I’ve seen “simple” web sites bog down on much faster connections.

As one data point, my ex had Comcast’s, I think 50/5 or something, and my kids constantly complained about the network over there. Part of it is being spoiled by my true gigabit symmetrical, part of it is the worst company in America, but the reality is that it’s noticeable

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago*

    25/3 is perfectly usable for a single user, provided you don't need to upload stuff. Watching 1080p60 on YouTube only needs slightly over 12 mbps.

    I'm not defending the current state of the internet services, just saying it's not that bad.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Honestly I am really happy when I get such high speeds. 25Mbps feels blazing fast for me. Everything loading/downloading so quickly. An average song in the FLAC 16/44 format would download in just 10 seconds instead of up to 5 minutes.

    And there's already even 10Gbps available. I can't even imagine that. You could download a whole 4K movie in a matter of seconds!

    Anyway, this is what I have:
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    I can only dream.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I think one of the issues I have with “normal” bandwidth is being spoiled by gigabit fiber. I don’t do anything to require that kind of bandwidth, not even close, but it just works. No matter what I do. Every time

    Cable internet is notoriously poor and it really is. Sure, your minimum standard high speed internet is mathematically more than I need, “up to” more than I need, but the reality is far worse. I regularly see network lag and high latency, it regularly causes visible issues. It tends to be slow and frustrating even when the advertised speeds shouldn’t be.

    If we’re going to set a standard based on advertised speeds, we need to do the same math that providers use to set a more useable standard. Or we can set the standard to actual speeds and watch them scream

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    well, if you have the money for it, you can get starlink, but its far from cheap. But since you are at cellular network, a 4G receiver with good placement can much improve on those speeds. I assume you are in some signal shadow, and swan never had too good coverage outside large cities... Maybe try some other operator ?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    For 13EUR/month I sure could get faster speeds, but also fairly small data limits. Here I get 300GB/month.

    Maybe the nearby cell towers are overloaded, I don't know. But at midnight it can go up to 45Mbps. The speed peaks around 2-3AM.
    Also there's the free national roaming in Orange 2G/3G network. So if I really need faster internet speeds, I can use Orange 3G HSPA+ which is pretty reliable, although with 20GB/month cap.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago*

    My whole family house is on 25/5 in Australia. Most of laptops in the house are 1366x768 (so 720p youtube video) and we use adblockers.

    The key is setting up proper queue control on your router (Openwrt + SQM) so that one person downloading or uploading doesn't ruin the latency for everyone else browsing the web; before I did that a single person downloading a steam game or uploading something to Google drive made the web unbrowsable for everyone. Sadly this only works if your internet connection link speed is stable and reliable.

    I’m not entirely facetious: with trackers and ads and “web 2.0” nonsense and way over provisioning , I’ve seen “simple” web sites bog down on much faster connections.

    A lot of web 2.0 nonsense slowness is caused by executing megabytes of javascript. Fetching the few MB itself isn't the bottleneck for us :)

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    Best connection available in my town is a super overpriced 25/3, but what you actually get is more like 10/0.5. No fiber lines, no other providers around other than satellite, and no demand for more means it's just stagnant here

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    I have this and find it fine 🤷🏻‍♂️

    I can watch video streaming fine, browse fine, multiple family members.

    Yeah fast would be nicer but I don’t really have issues.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    I get like 20mbps down and it's fine. Netflix only recommends 15 Mbps for 4k streaming. Lol, looking at websites and stuff is certainly not a problem. About the only time speed has ever been an issue is if I need to download a large game on steam. But I attribute that more to developers just being too lazy to actually optimize their games. I shouldn't need to download 50 gigabytes to play some game when I'm just running at medium settings.

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