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I agree that the U.S. is more selfish and individualistic than even other capitalist countries. I agree that fewer people in the U.S. will respond positively to discussion than they would in other countries.
But some people will respond to it, while no one -- especially not hyper-individualists! -- will respond to variations on "fuck off." I'd rather engage with some people than with no people, because while the former may be a long shot, the latter is a guaranteed loss.
I genuinely don't get how anyone thinks "agree with everything I say immediately or fuck off" is going to accomplish anything. That is exactly the shit we laugh at small weirdo ultra sects for doing.
So what are you suggesting we do differently? From where I stand I don't see current tactics are working.
DSA is shrinking & other left orgs have a few thousand members each on a good day. We're looking at maybe if you stretch 100k leftists that join an org? That's a Taylot Swift concert. Not nothing, but not enough for a revolution or to be taken seriously in most parts of the country.
I have some ideas in an effort post I made a while back. Who knows what will work? I just believe that the current tactics are being done out of inertia more than strategic thinking.