HelltakerHomosexual comments on Xi: China's resolve to stay on the path of peaceful development will not change. We will never take the trodden path of colonial plundering, or the wrong path of seeking hegemony 👏

[–] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

What reasoning do you have that this will happen? Or is this just a vibe? Also anticommunism sounds pretty harsh considering the biggest dog in that pen is China. Everyone on this planet understands that the “inter imperialist” conflict you’re talking about (which is mostly global south nations btw so wtf) is just nuclear war with extra steps. The only ones who don’t understand this are the Americans.

and the other dogs are Russia, a post soviet gangster state; India, ruled by actual fascists; South africa, a state playing both sides to its advantage that hasn't fixed their economic apartheid and descending into reaction. They are our allies against imperialism of the west, but i have almost no faith that they'll become anything more than another economic imperialist force.

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[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Believe me I understand what you’re saying. No one is saying these nations are without problems, but

no faith that they'll become anything more than another economic imperialist force.

The biggest and most powerful nation in this block is China and very little is going to change that. That right there will stop most of those ambitions for the most part in my opinion. On top of that nuclear war is the other factor to consider and unlike the west these places for all their faults generally don’t want to die so really the only path forward is economic prosperity, which China incentivizes. So far everyone has said that these places will act just like the west without really thinking of all the ways acting like the west is just going to ostracize them from a clearly better future. Could it happen? Sure, but I doubt it.

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[–] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

for me to agree with that, china must reign in its foreign capitalists. they're capable of doing that and they've done it in select cases, but they must do it completely. They're not in any way as bad as the west, but not nearly as good as the soviet union or a socialist country. They're not trying to combat unequal exchange, they're trying to make 'win win' situations.

im not saying i discard them, but im not championing them as the ones who will free our world. They're extremely important to subverting western international capital, but they do that by helping the national bourgeoisie.

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[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

This isn’t about freeing the world. The primary contradiction in the world today is the west vs the global south. China is helping them to not be economically subservient to the west and that’s the most important step towards building socialism in the present moment. Whatever happens after that is anyone’s guess, but all I’m saying is it’s very disheartening to hear that many people here believe the global south will just end up like the west.

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