Honestly, MLs tend to do this with a lot of convos, I feel.

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[–] -4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (11 children)

That's purely speculation. I can also speculate that by letting Republicans win, the spineless Dems are just gonna join the winning side and swap over. Plenty have already done so or became libertarians who are just mini republicans. If popular support is on the side of the more extreme right then everyone moves further right. You can literally see this effect in CNN where they have increasingly worse narratives sliding towards the fascist right.

By the way the same Republicans are portraying the LGBTQ community as associated with groomers and also happen to have the gun nuts on their side. At least democrats don't actively do that. Republicans have been sliding real fast towards an even more extreme right ever since the trump presidency.

But sure both are equal and let's not vote and let Republicans win every seat. Definitely not gona have a worsening affect marginalized communities.

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  • [+] 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)
  • [+] -7 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    Ok then vote republican next election. Since it doesn't matter.

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  • [+] 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)
  • [+] -6 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    You literally refuse to backoff of the point that voting doesn't matter or that we shouldn't vote dem over republican so by all means vote republican.

    Since as you say in your argument it doesn't matter and that Dems are just as bad. Explain to me how it matters based on your arguments so far.

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  • [+] 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)
  • [–] -5 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Does voting matter or not? Does voting dem over Republicans matter or not? You keep on writing essays on how bad democrats are and yes they are as I said imperialists still and I never supported voting communism into office and only revolutions can achieve it. But all I am saying is that in the mean time, taking 10min to vote dem over Republicans will at best alleviate worse situations or at worse as you say do nothing so why not do it?

    What exactly are you trying to argue for?

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  • [+] 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)
  • [+] -6 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    You fundamentally believe Republicans in office in the future is exactly the same as democrats in the office so there is nothing more for us to discuss.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    My personal position is that voting matters so little that is pointless to argue about it. Maybe it’s useful in some situations, but I don’t see why anyone should vote for Biden again. Either way, the minimal impact of voting means you need to be doing praxis in more meaningful ways too. Vote or don’t, there’s no point to convince someone not to if you believe it has little effect. Both parties are so evil why pick a lesser one? Just please don’t wast your time campaigning or donating to Joe Biden.

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