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I am the outwitter! (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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[–] 0 points 2 years ago (9 children)

I'll be honest, I've had times where there's the "simple" solution, and "the solution I remember off the top of my head", and 10/10 the one that's happening is the one that I remember because I just did it last week.

I have no desire to google the arguments for self signing a cert with openssl, and I cannot remember which webserver wants the cabundle and the public cert in the same file. If I had done it even kinda recently I'd still remember what to poke in the certbot config.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    If you have no desire to do rudimentary googling for a group project in college, that sounds like you aren’t a very helpful teammate. Last time I generated certs I used the first stack overflow result and was done in minutes, there’s no excuse.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

    This is confusing to me, because the point of the request seems to be "get a certificate", not "get a self signed certificate generated by running the openssl command". If you know how to get the result, it doesn't really matter if you remembered offhand the shitty way or the overkill way.

    Is it really more helpful to say "I remember how to do this, but let me lookup a different way that doesn't use the tools I'm familiar with"?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Okay, I may be the stupid one here. But after a quick search, I don't see an obvious way to generate self-signed certs using certbot. Even letsencrypt's own website suggests using openssl.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    I think they generated real certs, rather than self signed.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Then that's actually against what was wanted. To get real certs, you have to open up the server to the internet.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago

    That's not the case, you just need to be able to make an outbound connection.

    The minutiae of how certbot works or if that specific person actually did it right or wrong is kind of aside the point of my "intended to be funny but seemingly was not" comment about how sometimes the easiest solution to implement is the one you remember, even if it's overkill for the immediate problem.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Just say no if you don't want to do something. I don't understand why people think fucking shit up in the guise of helping is more acceptable than admitting that you can't (or maybe just don't want to) do something.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Do you think that, in this example, using certbot is fucking shit up, or breaking something?

    The thing about overkill is that it does work. If you're accustomed to using a solution in a professional setting, it's probably both overkill and also vastly more familiar than the bare minimum required for a class project that would be entirely unacceptable in a professional setting.

    In OPs anecdote, they did get their certificates, so I don't quite see your "intentionally fucking things up" claim as what's happening.

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