Honestly, MLs tend to do this with a lot of convos, I feel.
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How? Lets say for example you draw a couple engaging in regular sex, how does this promote exploitation or reducing people to objects?
If a persons takeaway from drawn or written porn depicting nothing more then regular sexual encounters is that the subjects in it are nothing more then objects, that seems to speak more about the viewer then the medium.
That's like the "Video games cause violence" narrative. If you cannot detract fiction from reality, that is an issue with the viewer.
Do you see two people engaging in an in-person sexual-attraction based hookup as exploitation?
Japan and their drawn porn filled with sexual assault and pedophilia definitely is oo and does not help perpetuate their rampant misogyny and sexual harassment issue
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Alright? I struggle to see the conflict here, you are again describing an issue with the viewer rather then the medium.
That is also a massive leap in logic. How will people viewing sex cause them to view the other gender as nothing more then objects of desire? Again, if a person cannot disconnect their reality from a fictional medium, that is a personal issue. Further, of there is nothing problematic being depicted, then what is the negative takeaway in this scenario?
You also run into the issue that the vast majority of humans are inherently sexual. That is how we have literally survived as a species for hundreds of thousands of years. Humans have also been masturbating for hundreds of thousands of years, so how would you magically attempt to cease a base human instinct? Lets say a person did not have access to pornography, would they not just then resort to their imagination which would serve the exact same purpose??? Could people not simply just imagine others in their minds as "objects of desire"?
Again, this seems to be a societal, and educational problem rather then one related to the medium of drawn or written smut.
This argument also seems pretty logically sound.
I think that the discussion around the abolition of pornography is so difficult for men to talk about as we - most of us - want to see pretty, naked girls; however, for the sake of public harmony, it's probably something that just has to be accepted.
It's the same thing for meatless diets, as well.
I do not want to see pretty, naked girls. I'm gay. I want to see big burly men. Well toned and naturally athletic men, pretty naked men.
Me enjoying this on my own time does not lead me to view the people around me as objects of desire. That would be sick, demeaning, and exploitative.
Eradicating porn in the way you describe would be impossible. Further, how are artists going to learn anatomy? Every single art program will teach the nude form. Would those artists practice sketches be considered porn? What if they masturbated to it? Are medical textbooks that show the nude figure sexual? Are historical paintings of people having sex now porn?
This entire concept seems extremely utopian and idealist with no realistic way of being accomplished.
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It may be to arousing for the male gaze lmao