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Maven Imported 1.12 Million Fediverse Posts (wedistribute.org)
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Maven, a new social network backed by OpenAI's Sam Altman, found itself in a controversy today when it imported a huge amount of posts and profiles from the Fediverse, and then ran AI analysis to alter the content.

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[–] 13 points 2 years ago (17 children)

Oh shit, the persona guy was right! We should all be adding license to our comments, so could not legally train model that are then used for commercial purposes.

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  • [+] 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)
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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I feel like the bad thing about this is, whereas the researchers will mostly respect this, companies who want to make money out of data will still secretly keep using the data anyways. I am more ok with the data being used for non-profit research and not for making money but this would likely have the opposite effect.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    yeah they were. I hope more people start doing it even if it doesn't legally hold water its still a good way to show that fediverse users won't stand for that.

    Anti Commercial-AI license (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (5 children)

    Why do you think it won't hold water legally? There's a case going right now against Github Copilot for scraping GPL licences code, even spitting it back out verbatim, and not making "open" AI actually open.

    Creative Commons is not a joke licence. It actually is used by artists, authors, and other creative types.

    Imagine Maven or another company doing the same shit they just did and it coming to light there were a bunch of noncommercially licences content in there. The authors could band together for a class action lawsuit and sue their asses. Given the reaction of users here and on mastodon, I wouldn't even be surprised if it did happen.

    Anti Commercial-AI license

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

    I mostly mention that to fend off the people that use the main basis of their argument as the effectiveness because that's not why I'm doing it.

    I do think it could work legally if the courts want to remain consistent, but that isn't guaranteed.

    Anti Commercial-AI license (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    Don't we also need a critical mass of people adding licenses to posts? So that a class action suit can be launched. Because it would be inviable and a very rapid path to self-defeat if people started to try and individually sue big corpo.

    Also I'm missing a way to automatically add this to my posts. Something like a browser extension.

    This post is licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Yeah the more people the better so its easier to have a class action lawsuit.

    Also for me I'm using a text expander so that after I type a shortcut it automatically adds the rest of the text for me.

    Anti Commercial-AI license (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Also for me I’m using a text expander so that after I type a shortcut it automatically adds the rest of the text for me.

    I request of you, show me your ways!

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Well on firefox/chrome extensions you can search for text expander and choose an extension that works for you.

    Or if you are using a phone you can do the same on the app store and I think there should be a few options.

    Once you download one of them it should give instructions on how to use it, but in general it asks you to create a phrase that you want to be automatically triggered and a shorter phrase that automatically replaced with the longer phrase.

    For example-

    long phrase: The quick brown fox jumped over the moon.

    short phrase: /qfox

    and every time you typed /qfox it would replace it with "The quick brown fox jumped over the moon."

    Anti Commercial-AI license (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's especially for these kinds of dumb cases where they simply copy content wholesale and boast about it. With more people licencing their contents as non commercial, the "hot water" these companies get in could not just be trivial but actually legal.

    Would be great if web and mobile clients supported signatures or a "licence" field from which signatures were generated. Even better would be if people smarter than me added a feature to poison AI training data. This could also be done by a signature or some other method.

    Anti Commercial-AI license

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