▲ 987 ▼ YouTube is experimenting with server-side ads (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Dju@lemmy.world to c/enshittification@lemmy.world 352 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://fosstodon.org/@sponsorblock/112603139898164385
[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 57 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Goodbye YouTube. Hello…? permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tyoda@lemm.ee 108 points 2 years ago (6 children) PeerTube. Except nobody's going to use it until everybody uses it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] parpol@programming.dev 31 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago (4 children) Load it to what? Who's going to pay for all the bandwidth and storage. How much are y8u willing to host? Peertube is never going to take off because it well cost users and people like free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] parpol@programming.dev 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago That'd require a bit more knowledge than the average YouTube user has, unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Who’s going to pay for all the bandwidth and storage. The users -- it's all bittorrent. permalink fedilink source parent [–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago Just add "decentralized web3 mining" somewhere in the page and crypto-dipshits will host the shit out of it. No actual cryptocurrency nor even a whitepaper required. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago You're right, but I dream that one day enough people will realise that the "free" model is shit and be willing to pay. I'd love to support a content producer on peertube who hosts their own content - the proviso being that their content is engaging enough to want to watch. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Kind of bootstrap paradox permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] onion@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago It's called network effect permalink fedilink source parent [–] mynamesnotrick@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) I just went and looked to see if peertube is remotely viable.. technically seems working. I found an app on f-droid, got on a bigger instance (1k users seems about the biggest). Videos load and play. There isn't much content at all. A real shame. So yeah we don't have an option permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago Other than using Patreon or something on the side, I don't see how anyone is going to make money off of creating Peertube content, either. Becoming a millionaire Youtube star à la Mr. Beast or Linus or whoever the fuck is obviously every aspiring videographer's goal on there, whether it actually happens or not, and that inherent commercialization draws creators to the platform regardless of whether or not we think it's for good or for ill. Peertube, if it ever takes off, will probably be like early Youtube in that the people posting to it will be enthusiasts who want to, not personalities doing it in the hopes of getting rich. That might be a good thing, depending on how you look at it, but don't ever expect the kinds of ultra-produced, professional content we see on Youtube these days coming from people who can afford to hire camera teams, video editors, sound people, scriptwriters, on-location shoots, etc., etc. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago I upload my videos there. Started off because professor wanted us to record ourselves then I just uploaded whatever. It's not much but it's honest work. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Damage@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) PeerTube doesn't have the allure given by the chance of getting paid for what you upload permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago you can still get paid but you'll need to make your own revenue stream. permalink fedilink source parent [+] AgnosticMammal@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] hankskyjames777@kbin.run 1 point 2 years ago* ...PeerTube! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tyoda@lemm.ee 108 points 2 years ago (6 children) PeerTube. Except nobody's going to use it until everybody uses it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] parpol@programming.dev 31 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago (4 children) Load it to what? Who's going to pay for all the bandwidth and storage. How much are y8u willing to host? Peertube is never going to take off because it well cost users and people like free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] parpol@programming.dev 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago That'd require a bit more knowledge than the average YouTube user has, unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Who’s going to pay for all the bandwidth and storage. The users -- it's all bittorrent. permalink fedilink source parent [–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago Just add "decentralized web3 mining" somewhere in the page and crypto-dipshits will host the shit out of it. No actual cryptocurrency nor even a whitepaper required. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago You're right, but I dream that one day enough people will realise that the "free" model is shit and be willing to pay. I'd love to support a content producer on peertube who hosts their own content - the proviso being that their content is engaging enough to want to watch. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Kind of bootstrap paradox permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] onion@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago It's called network effect permalink fedilink source parent [–] mynamesnotrick@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) I just went and looked to see if peertube is remotely viable.. technically seems working. I found an app on f-droid, got on a bigger instance (1k users seems about the biggest). Videos load and play. There isn't much content at all. A real shame. So yeah we don't have an option permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago Other than using Patreon or something on the side, I don't see how anyone is going to make money off of creating Peertube content, either. Becoming a millionaire Youtube star à la Mr. Beast or Linus or whoever the fuck is obviously every aspiring videographer's goal on there, whether it actually happens or not, and that inherent commercialization draws creators to the platform regardless of whether or not we think it's for good or for ill. Peertube, if it ever takes off, will probably be like early Youtube in that the people posting to it will be enthusiasts who want to, not personalities doing it in the hopes of getting rich. That might be a good thing, depending on how you look at it, but don't ever expect the kinds of ultra-produced, professional content we see on Youtube these days coming from people who can afford to hire camera teams, video editors, sound people, scriptwriters, on-location shoots, etc., etc. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago I upload my videos there. Started off because professor wanted us to record ourselves then I just uploaded whatever. It's not much but it's honest work. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Damage@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) PeerTube doesn't have the allure given by the chance of getting paid for what you upload permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago you can still get paid but you'll need to make your own revenue stream. permalink fedilink source parent [+] AgnosticMammal@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] parpol@programming.dev 31 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago (4 children) Load it to what? Who's going to pay for all the bandwidth and storage. How much are y8u willing to host? Peertube is never going to take off because it well cost users and people like free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] parpol@programming.dev 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago That'd require a bit more knowledge than the average YouTube user has, unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Who’s going to pay for all the bandwidth and storage. The users -- it's all bittorrent. permalink fedilink source parent [–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago Just add "decentralized web3 mining" somewhere in the page and crypto-dipshits will host the shit out of it. No actual cryptocurrency nor even a whitepaper required. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago You're right, but I dream that one day enough people will realise that the "free" model is shit and be willing to pay. I'd love to support a content producer on peertube who hosts their own content - the proviso being that their content is engaging enough to want to watch. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago (4 children) Load it to what? Who's going to pay for all the bandwidth and storage. How much are y8u willing to host? Peertube is never going to take off because it well cost users and people like free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] parpol@programming.dev 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago That'd require a bit more knowledge than the average YouTube user has, unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Who’s going to pay for all the bandwidth and storage. The users -- it's all bittorrent. permalink fedilink source parent [–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago Just add "decentralized web3 mining" somewhere in the page and crypto-dipshits will host the shit out of it. No actual cryptocurrency nor even a whitepaper required. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago You're right, but I dream that one day enough people will realise that the "free" model is shit and be willing to pay. I'd love to support a content producer on peertube who hosts their own content - the proviso being that their content is engaging enough to want to watch. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] parpol@programming.dev 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago That'd require a bit more knowledge than the average YouTube user has, unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago That'd require a bit more knowledge than the average YouTube user has, unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Who’s going to pay for all the bandwidth and storage. The users -- it's all bittorrent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago Just add "decentralized web3 mining" somewhere in the page and crypto-dipshits will host the shit out of it. No actual cryptocurrency nor even a whitepaper required. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago You're right, but I dream that one day enough people will realise that the "free" model is shit and be willing to pay. I'd love to support a content producer on peertube who hosts their own content - the proviso being that their content is engaging enough to want to watch. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Kind of bootstrap paradox permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] onion@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago It's called network effect permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mynamesnotrick@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) I just went and looked to see if peertube is remotely viable.. technically seems working. I found an app on f-droid, got on a bigger instance (1k users seems about the biggest). Videos load and play. There isn't much content at all. A real shame. So yeah we don't have an option permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago Other than using Patreon or something on the side, I don't see how anyone is going to make money off of creating Peertube content, either. Becoming a millionaire Youtube star à la Mr. Beast or Linus or whoever the fuck is obviously every aspiring videographer's goal on there, whether it actually happens or not, and that inherent commercialization draws creators to the platform regardless of whether or not we think it's for good or for ill. Peertube, if it ever takes off, will probably be like early Youtube in that the people posting to it will be enthusiasts who want to, not personalities doing it in the hopes of getting rich. That might be a good thing, depending on how you look at it, but don't ever expect the kinds of ultra-produced, professional content we see on Youtube these days coming from people who can afford to hire camera teams, video editors, sound people, scriptwriters, on-location shoots, etc., etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago Other than using Patreon or something on the side, I don't see how anyone is going to make money off of creating Peertube content, either. Becoming a millionaire Youtube star à la Mr. Beast or Linus or whoever the fuck is obviously every aspiring videographer's goal on there, whether it actually happens or not, and that inherent commercialization draws creators to the platform regardless of whether or not we think it's for good or for ill. Peertube, if it ever takes off, will probably be like early Youtube in that the people posting to it will be enthusiasts who want to, not personalities doing it in the hopes of getting rich. That might be a good thing, depending on how you look at it, but don't ever expect the kinds of ultra-produced, professional content we see on Youtube these days coming from people who can afford to hire camera teams, video editors, sound people, scriptwriters, on-location shoots, etc., etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago I upload my videos there. Started off because professor wanted us to record ourselves then I just uploaded whatever. It's not much but it's honest work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Damage@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) PeerTube doesn't have the allure given by the chance of getting paid for what you upload permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago you can still get paid but you'll need to make your own revenue stream. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago you can still get paid but you'll need to make your own revenue stream. permalink fedilink source parent