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Maven Imported 1.12 Million Fediverse Posts (wedistribute.org)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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Maven, a new social network backed by OpenAI's Sam Altman, found itself in a controversy today when it imported a huge amount of posts and profiles from the Fediverse, and then ran AI analysis to alter the content.

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[–] 29 points 2 years ago* (12 children)

That's why I keep saying it's pointless to defederate corpos. They'll just scrape everything before you notice.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    The fact they even got DMs from at least one instance is crazy.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    And it's also damming for private messaging on mastodon.

    I once read vague complaints about it being a rushed implementation. While I won't trust those without evidence, I for sure wouldn't trust mastodon with my PMs. At least, not until how this was allowed to happen is figured out and fixed if necessary.

    P.S. I'm still not sure I believe in PMs in the fediverse. If I need to share something and care about keeping it private, I'd rather move the conversation elsewhere.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I was under the impression that DM's on Mastodon (and Lemmy too) weren't ever stated as being secure and I think that they were both pretty transparent about this particular aspect.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    You're right, regarding Mastodon. I won't edit my other comment, though, both to preserve the original chain of thought and because that brings up another discussion.

    To quote the EFF:

    We feel that the intended usage of the feature will not determine people’s expectation of privacy while using it.

    Offering people a feature with preexisting expectations, similar to other things that fulfill those expectations, then telling people "We know it looks like a duck but don't expect it to quack!"

    ...It begs the question: was the feature really a good idea?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Defederation is more about not being flooded with 1000x more users than the Fediverse currently has

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Unfortunately a lot of people think it's to do with scraping as well. The amount of "defederate Threads so that they can't scrape my data" posts I saw was about 50-50 with the sensible takes.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    So far we only have a corpo fedi-twitter in form of Threads. In that case non-corpo instance user has to specifically follow someone before their content is federated so that sounds like a bit overblown issue.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Seems pretty easy for any corporation to setup something like https://lemmy-federate.com/ but for Maston/IceShrimp/Misskey accounts to federate the important corporate accounts to the targeted non-corpo instances

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