▲ 665 ▼ "Contrary to a 'horseshoe' theory, the evidence reveals increasing antisemitism moving from left to right." (64.media.tumblr.com) submitted 2 years ago by Five@slrpnk.net to c/memes@slrpnk.net 190 comments fedilink hide all child comments Hersh, Eitan; Royden, Laura (25 June 2022). "Antisemitic Attitudes Across the Ideological Spectrum" Political Research Quarterly. doi:10.1177/10659129221111081
[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) according to some yes, but according to normal people though, antifa is just people who don't want nazis around them, which should be everyone? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NekoKamiGuru@ttrpg.network 2 points 2 years ago Since it is leaderless some factions of Antifa are extreme left, some are what they say on the tin and are are anti fascist, and some are crypto-fascists who have appropriated the language of antifa as a smoke screen , this last group has most of the ones who go on social media and stir up ship , and bait people, and try to turn peaceful protests into riots to discredit the protestors... permalink fedilink source parent [+] Iceblade02@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] frazorth@feddit.uk 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) Makes them violent extremists Only if you believe that any violence is extreme. I would disagree, punching fascists is fairly centrist and enjoys broad support. what I've seen, plenty of antifa folk will use violence and vandalism against people unrelated to the supposed target group. That is besides the point. You can be against facists and also against Nestle at the same time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago "Centrist" only if you use the sense of a median popular political position, which isn't really what it means. Self-described centrists are actually conservative and tend to be weirdly* okay with Nazis. *weird if you don't understand the link between capital, the state, conservatism and fascism permalink fedilink source parent [+] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] shneancy@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) do you think WWII was won without violence mate? If nazis could be reasoned with there wouldn't be a war in the first place. You can't turn the other cheek to nazis, it's just not an option, you either fight back or you die. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shneancy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago "enforcing non-violance" and how do you propose we do that? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago Centrists are currently overseeing a genocide right before our eyes and telling us that the fascists would be worse so we just have to suck it up and vote for them. Centrists are violent extremists permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NekoKamiGuru@ttrpg.network 2 points 2 years ago Since it is leaderless some factions of Antifa are extreme left, some are what they say on the tin and are are anti fascist, and some are crypto-fascists who have appropriated the language of antifa as a smoke screen , this last group has most of the ones who go on social media and stir up ship , and bait people, and try to turn peaceful protests into riots to discredit the protestors... permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Iceblade02@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] frazorth@feddit.uk 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) Makes them violent extremists Only if you believe that any violence is extreme. I would disagree, punching fascists is fairly centrist and enjoys broad support. what I've seen, plenty of antifa folk will use violence and vandalism against people unrelated to the supposed target group. That is besides the point. You can be against facists and also against Nestle at the same time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago "Centrist" only if you use the sense of a median popular political position, which isn't really what it means. Self-described centrists are actually conservative and tend to be weirdly* okay with Nazis. *weird if you don't understand the link between capital, the state, conservatism and fascism permalink fedilink source parent [+] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] shneancy@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) do you think WWII was won without violence mate? If nazis could be reasoned with there wouldn't be a war in the first place. You can't turn the other cheek to nazis, it's just not an option, you either fight back or you die. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shneancy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago "enforcing non-violance" and how do you propose we do that? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago Centrists are currently overseeing a genocide right before our eyes and telling us that the fascists would be worse so we just have to suck it up and vote for them. Centrists are violent extremists permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) Makes them violent extremists Only if you believe that any violence is extreme. I would disagree, punching fascists is fairly centrist and enjoys broad support. what I've seen, plenty of antifa folk will use violence and vandalism against people unrelated to the supposed target group. That is besides the point. You can be against facists and also against Nestle at the same time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago "Centrist" only if you use the sense of a median popular political position, which isn't really what it means. Self-described centrists are actually conservative and tend to be weirdly* okay with Nazis. *weird if you don't understand the link between capital, the state, conservatism and fascism permalink fedilink source parent [+] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago "Centrist" only if you use the sense of a median popular political position, which isn't really what it means. Self-described centrists are actually conservative and tend to be weirdly* okay with Nazis. *weird if you don't understand the link between capital, the state, conservatism and fascism permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) do you think WWII was won without violence mate? If nazis could be reasoned with there wouldn't be a war in the first place. You can't turn the other cheek to nazis, it's just not an option, you either fight back or you die. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shneancy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago "enforcing non-violance" and how do you propose we do that? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shneancy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago "enforcing non-violance" and how do you propose we do that? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago "enforcing non-violance" and how do you propose we do that? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago Centrists are currently overseeing a genocide right before our eyes and telling us that the fascists would be worse so we just have to suck it up and vote for them. Centrists are violent extremists permalink fedilink source parent