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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Wow, another map where the old GDR borders are easily visible. This time they are voting for Nazis. Horseshoe theory proved correct yet again?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The horseshoe theory is still bullshit, as is assuming GDR was a "far left" opposite to far right AfD nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago

This time they are voting for Nazis.

Again. They were also one of the first ones where the NSDAP got their chunk of votes.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Imo, it moreso proves that poverty causes desperation, desperation causes people to be way more susceptible to political extremism.

I don't think this has anything to do with the GDR except for the fact that it left east Germany in poverty.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

if you're driving through East German cities you know why they're voting populist right wing parties. there's no work, poverty and half of the houses are empty because a lot of the people already left.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's half the explanation.
The economic and social decline makes people susceptible to populists.

But the other half is this:
They're not the only populists.
To vote for outright, obvious Neo-Nazis you also have to ok with Neo-Nazis.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

totally agree with you on that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah, but that doesn't explain it all. GΓΆrlitz for example is the county with the highest number of votes for the AfD. But the county is doing really well, there's a big Siemens plant there.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Black is only marginally better. No reason for the west to feel superior.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Wow, another map where the old GDR borders are easily visible.

https://lemmy.today/post/11881508

Germany: Largest party in 2024 EU elections vs 1947 west/east Germany division

I think that the real issue here is that Walter Model did an effective job of halting Operation Market Garden.

That was pre-Yalta, and my guess is that if it had succeeded, the occupation lines probably would have been further east.