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[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

How do the workers own the means of production if the state controls everything? Especially a state that only allows certain kind of person into the controlling party. An upper class, you might say.

Even if they own it, and the state demands a 90% tax on production, what do they really own?

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

You see, the state simply claims to be the workers - or rather their chosen representative.

Therefore, since the state owns everything, the workers must own everything. The GDR was so far left, they even ensured workers wouldn't accidentally self-harm their means of production through strikes, how kind of them.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Under a capitalist society, workers gain influence by joining a strike, union, or worker co-op. A state is a corporation that owns the means of violence. Under a capitalistic society this is used to protect the capital class. Under a more socialistic society a state becomes less important.