▲ 753 ▼ Turtle Shells (mander.xyz) submitted 2 years ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to c/science_memes@mander.xyz 91 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev -5 points 2 years ago (5 children) You cannot survive without air but you're not air permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] PrimeErective@startrek.website 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) I mean yes, no one, human or turtle, can survive without the ecosystem of the earth, so you could really argue that the planet is the true organism and we are simply byproducts of its existence permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Yet you won't argue that you are the earth. Why would you argue that a turtle is the same as a turtle's shell then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PrimeErective@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Where can you really draw the line? Could you survive in space without any air or equipment? Even if you could, where did the equipment and air come from? Photosynthetic organisms are for all practical purposes part of your lungs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Me needing something doesn't make that thing me, right? I need the sun to survive but neither the sun is part of me / I am part of the sun. Like, are you your skeleton? What about the other parts that are not bones then? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago You can bring extra air and survive just fine. You can't bring an extra skull. Likewise, a hermit crab can bring an extra shell, but a turtle cannot bring an extra shell. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PrimeErective@startrek.website 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) I mean yes, no one, human or turtle, can survive without the ecosystem of the earth, so you could really argue that the planet is the true organism and we are simply byproducts of its existence permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Yet you won't argue that you are the earth. Why would you argue that a turtle is the same as a turtle's shell then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PrimeErective@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Where can you really draw the line? Could you survive in space without any air or equipment? Even if you could, where did the equipment and air come from? Photosynthetic organisms are for all practical purposes part of your lungs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Me needing something doesn't make that thing me, right? I need the sun to survive but neither the sun is part of me / I am part of the sun. Like, are you your skeleton? What about the other parts that are not bones then? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Yet you won't argue that you are the earth. Why would you argue that a turtle is the same as a turtle's shell then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PrimeErective@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Where can you really draw the line? Could you survive in space without any air or equipment? Even if you could, where did the equipment and air come from? Photosynthetic organisms are for all practical purposes part of your lungs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Me needing something doesn't make that thing me, right? I need the sun to survive but neither the sun is part of me / I am part of the sun. Like, are you your skeleton? What about the other parts that are not bones then? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PrimeErective@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Where can you really draw the line? Could you survive in space without any air or equipment? Even if you could, where did the equipment and air come from? Photosynthetic organisms are for all practical purposes part of your lungs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Me needing something doesn't make that thing me, right? I need the sun to survive but neither the sun is part of me / I am part of the sun. Like, are you your skeleton? What about the other parts that are not bones then? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Me needing something doesn't make that thing me, right? I need the sun to survive but neither the sun is part of me / I am part of the sun. Like, are you your skeleton? What about the other parts that are not bones then? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago You can bring extra air and survive just fine. You can't bring an extra skull. Likewise, a hermit crab can bring an extra shell, but a turtle cannot bring an extra shell. permalink fedilink source parent