Land_Strider comments on Russian woman traveling to the US through Mexico complains that everyone hates Russians.

[+] Land_Strider@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

That this lady had no part in it and is actually trying to leave their country because of it, even leaving their families behind. Notice how she says Russians in Russia are always angry and she's looking for a calmer place to live in. The main reason for their complaint is that even though they left all the angry Russians behind, they are now facing a not-so-much bigoted and racist behaviour in a place they hoped to find less aggressive life.

And here we have these guys in the comments foaming "FAFO" in their mouths without any indicator that this Russian person has anything to do with the Russian government or ultranationalist populace, where she left behind, any more than the peace-loving U..S. citizens' being complicit in the mess their military-industry run government's actions.

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[–] froh42@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

Yes, riiiiiiight - as well as my grandparent generation had noooothing to do with the things that happened here in Germany during WW2.

I would get it if she'd acknowledge what her country does and state that she doesn't agree with Russia invading other countries. But this tearful "everyone treats us soooo bad", blaming everyone else.... fuck, no.

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[–] monk@lemmy.unboiled.info 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

IDK. Where was he during WW2? Mexico?

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[–] froh42@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago

I was sarcastic. In Germany. He was very adept at arranging himself during the war and also afterwards.

I have reason to believe he was one of those who chose to ignore things, that's why I can't stand such people - just like the woman in the video.

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[–] Land_Strider@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

It is one thing to make an enemy in a state power, it is another to disagree and try to put it behind yourself. You can say many of the Russians in Russia are complicit in this war even if they are not directly supporting it, but many more are just some people making a living where they are born and where they usually have no easy access to leave or not be a part of.

Don't make this topic more harmful nationalistic one more than it already is. Warring states, propaganda brainwashing and violent bigots are one thing and should not be given the benefit of the doubt. The civilians that have no overt or willing part in it but caught in the literal or political/social crossfire are another thing and what makes war worse than hell because you one can't separate the two easily, but one must try.

Edit: Also your rhetoric is the same one Putin has been using for a decade in the annexed and occupied eastern Ukraine. "They are all Nazis over there" is one easy step towards the horrors of war.

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[–] froh42@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago*

"They are all Nazis over there" is something you try to put into my mouth.

I said it is the same situation in Russia where people do not speak up against what their country does. I also understand if they fear repercussions.

But this woman, who said she was in Brazil before, just whines around, "Russia is strong" and obviously is very OK with what happens or chooses to ignore it. She has been out of Russia for some time, she has seen other. media.

What I said - the same what happened in Germany is happening in Russia right now. People CHOOSING not to see and not to, speak about it.

I never said anything about "all" Russians.

Don't try to put words in my mouth.

What I expect - yes demand - from someone like this woman is acknowledging what happens.

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