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I feel like we need to talk about Lemmy's massive tankie censorship problem. A lot of popular lemmy communities are hosted on lemmy.ml. It's been well known for a while that the admins/mods of that instance have, let's say, rather extremist and onesided political views. In short, they're what's colloquially referred to as tankies. This wouldn't be much of an issue if they didn't regularly abuse their admin/mod status to censor and silence people who dissent with their political beliefs and for example, post things critical of China, Russia, the USSR, socialism, ...

As an example, there was a thread today about the anniversary of the Tiananmen Massacre. When I was reading it, there were mostly posts critical of China in the thread and some whataboutist/denialist replies critical of the USA and the west. In terms of votes, the posts critical of China were definitely getting the most support.

I posted a comment in this thread linking to "https://archive.ph/2020.07.12-074312/https://imgur.com/a/AIIbbPs" (WARNING: graphical content), which describes aspects of the atrocities that aren't widely known even in the West, and supporting evidence. My comment was promptly removed for violating the "Be nice and civil" rule. When I looked back at the thread, I noticed that all posts critical of China had been removed while the whataboutist and denialist comments were left in place.

This is what the modlog of the instance looks like:

Definitely a trend there wouldn't you say?

When I called them out on their one sided censorship, with a screenshot of the modlog above, I promptly received a community ban on all communities on lemmy.ml that I had ever participated in.

Proof:

So many of you will now probably think something like: "So what, it's the fediverse, you can use another instance."

The problem with this reasoning is that many of the popular communities are actually on lemmy.ml, and they're not so easy to replace. I mean, in terms of content and engagement lemmy is already a pretty small place as it is. So it's rather pointless sitting for example in /c/[email protected] where there's nobody to discuss anything with.

I'm not sure if there's a solution here, but I'd like to urge people to avoid lemmy.ml hosted communities in favor of communities on more reasonable instances.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

On your Lemmy instance, go to Settings -> Blocks and just block the entire instance. That's what I did.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't block their users though, only their communities.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’m honestly fine with that, because outside of their home server, they cannot rely on their mods to protect them from arguments they don’t want to hear.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're fine with a murderous authoritarian government spreading disinformation where you socialize?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm fine with it as long as I don't have to debate them on THEIR terms.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Go ahead and "debate" the CCP, enjoy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Like I said, fine with me as long as it's on neutral ground and they can't just have an admin delete some of my arguments because they don't like them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You'll waste your time arguing with authoritarian ChatGPTs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Two can play that game. And since ChatGPT has a rather liberal bias baked in, I'm not sure it would it work out too well for the tankies.