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[+] iarigby@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] cybersin@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (3 children) You speak as if you believe Russia has freedom of press and right to openly protest. The fact is that the Russian state controls most of the public discourse, and any opposition is crushed. And you would place the blame on the victims of this regime? EDIT: You seem like the type to believe Putin fairly won the election with 88% of the vote. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] iarigby@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cybersin@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Putin did not have to convince anyone there that Ukrainians (and other neighbor countries) donβt have the right to exist as an independent nation. This is absolutely not true. Many Russians have relatives in the countries which were formerly part of the Soviet Union. There have been many protests within Russia against the war, which were usually met with violent suppression. Many in opposition of the war fled if they were able to. But I guess Russians just really want to fight against their foreign relatives, simply because they themselves are Russian. there is a national identity that they have had for decades and centuries Yeah, there was this one guy who was in power for like 24 years who was a part of the intelligence community before he became a politician. Before he came to power, the entire world wanted the nation gone (and still do). Crazy how having every western government hate you could be used to create a national identity. for understanding just how much of the responsibility for the war falls on the nation and not just Putin. If the Russian people are responsible, I guess we should start bombing Russian cities then. That sounds reasonable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] iarigby@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [β] rogerhaase@mastodon.social -2 points 2 years ago @iarigby @cybersin exactly! permalink fedilink source parent [β] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (4 children) I work with several, you are just a bigot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] iarigby@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [β] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) People are individuals who are more than the country and government they are from. If you believe that 99% of a country is the same, you are a bigot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] iarigby@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) You said that people had "the fortune" of not meeting enough Russians and that less than one percent were in opposition. Perhaps you're are just sloppy with your language, but it sounds like you're just rocking the "one of the good ones" argument, so whatever. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] cybersin@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (3 children) You speak as if you believe Russia has freedom of press and right to openly protest. The fact is that the Russian state controls most of the public discourse, and any opposition is crushed. And you would place the blame on the victims of this regime? EDIT: You seem like the type to believe Putin fairly won the election with 88% of the vote. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] iarigby@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cybersin@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Putin did not have to convince anyone there that Ukrainians (and other neighbor countries) donβt have the right to exist as an independent nation. This is absolutely not true. Many Russians have relatives in the countries which were formerly part of the Soviet Union. There have been many protests within Russia against the war, which were usually met with violent suppression. Many in opposition of the war fled if they were able to. But I guess Russians just really want to fight against their foreign relatives, simply because they themselves are Russian. there is a national identity that they have had for decades and centuries Yeah, there was this one guy who was in power for like 24 years who was a part of the intelligence community before he became a politician. Before he came to power, the entire world wanted the nation gone (and still do). Crazy how having every western government hate you could be used to create a national identity. for understanding just how much of the responsibility for the war falls on the nation and not just Putin. If the Russian people are responsible, I guess we should start bombing Russian cities then. That sounds reasonable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] iarigby@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] iarigby@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cybersin@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Putin did not have to convince anyone there that Ukrainians (and other neighbor countries) donβt have the right to exist as an independent nation. This is absolutely not true. Many Russians have relatives in the countries which were formerly part of the Soviet Union. There have been many protests within Russia against the war, which were usually met with violent suppression. Many in opposition of the war fled if they were able to. But I guess Russians just really want to fight against their foreign relatives, simply because they themselves are Russian. there is a national identity that they have had for decades and centuries Yeah, there was this one guy who was in power for like 24 years who was a part of the intelligence community before he became a politician. Before he came to power, the entire world wanted the nation gone (and still do). Crazy how having every western government hate you could be used to create a national identity. for understanding just how much of the responsibility for the war falls on the nation and not just Putin. If the Russian people are responsible, I guess we should start bombing Russian cities then. That sounds reasonable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] iarigby@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] cybersin@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Putin did not have to convince anyone there that Ukrainians (and other neighbor countries) donβt have the right to exist as an independent nation. This is absolutely not true. Many Russians have relatives in the countries which were formerly part of the Soviet Union. There have been many protests within Russia against the war, which were usually met with violent suppression. Many in opposition of the war fled if they were able to. But I guess Russians just really want to fight against their foreign relatives, simply because they themselves are Russian. there is a national identity that they have had for decades and centuries Yeah, there was this one guy who was in power for like 24 years who was a part of the intelligence community before he became a politician. Before he came to power, the entire world wanted the nation gone (and still do). Crazy how having every western government hate you could be used to create a national identity. for understanding just how much of the responsibility for the war falls on the nation and not just Putin. If the Russian people are responsible, I guess we should start bombing Russian cities then. That sounds reasonable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] iarigby@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] iarigby@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] rogerhaase@mastodon.social -2 points 2 years ago @iarigby @cybersin exactly! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (4 children) I work with several, you are just a bigot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] iarigby@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [β] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) People are individuals who are more than the country and government they are from. If you believe that 99% of a country is the same, you are a bigot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] iarigby@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) You said that people had "the fortune" of not meeting enough Russians and that less than one percent were in opposition. Perhaps you're are just sloppy with your language, but it sounds like you're just rocking the "one of the good ones" argument, so whatever. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] iarigby@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [β] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) People are individuals who are more than the country and government they are from. If you believe that 99% of a country is the same, you are a bigot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] iarigby@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) You said that people had "the fortune" of not meeting enough Russians and that less than one percent were in opposition. Perhaps you're are just sloppy with your language, but it sounds like you're just rocking the "one of the good ones" argument, so whatever. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) People are individuals who are more than the country and government they are from. If you believe that 99% of a country is the same, you are a bigot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] iarigby@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) You said that people had "the fortune" of not meeting enough Russians and that less than one percent were in opposition. Perhaps you're are just sloppy with your language, but it sounds like you're just rocking the "one of the good ones" argument, so whatever. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] iarigby@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) You said that people had "the fortune" of not meeting enough Russians and that less than one percent were in opposition. Perhaps you're are just sloppy with your language, but it sounds like you're just rocking the "one of the good ones" argument, so whatever. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) You said that people had "the fortune" of not meeting enough Russians and that less than one percent were in opposition. Perhaps you're are just sloppy with your language, but it sounds like you're just rocking the "one of the good ones" argument, so whatever. permalink fedilink source parent