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[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (42 children) I'm out of the loop on this one..? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 42 child comments replies: [–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 95 points 2 years ago (34 children) A cyber truck had a major malfunction and stopped working because it went into a car wash without being in “car wash” mode. The joke is that Cybertrucks cannot get wet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 34 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago (6 children) They also rust, like, instantly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (3 children) Because the stainless steel is not stainless and a protective coating is optional, not standard like... you know, on every other car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] JayleneSlide@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stainless steel that gets coated is no longer stainless steel. Stainless steel requires exposure to sufficient oxygen in order to maintain the protective oxide layer. These are rudder bolts from the same gudgeon on my sailboat. The black stuff is anoxic corrosion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago TIL. I suppose that's why nobody makes car body panels out of it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] timmy_dean_sausage@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well, it's very meaningful to continue to support your emotional support corporations. They need us as much as we need them. That's why you need to buy the product, and the "continued use" package. They're not charging extra for standard things just to charge extra. It's about the continued closeness in your relationship with daddy Tesla. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 5 points 2 years ago And will get stained by tree sap. You should avoid the extreme use-case of parking near trees. It's also why I love the fact that it has a tent accessory, despite being a car that can't handle being outside. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* Except it doesn't. It's not the body panels that are rusting. It's the airborne iron particles (mostly) from brake rotors that land on the stainless steel and react with it causing rust but it's actually just surface contamination and cleans up rather easily. This is in no way issue exclusive to the Cybertruck. It just doesn't react like that on a painted surface. Fallout remover is a commonly used product among car detailers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 years ago Which is doubly funny when you remember Elon claimed at one point the Cybertruck could be used as a boat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (25 children) Ah.. If I remember correctly; not being in a carwash mode caused the screen to freeze and because of a bug the hard reset took hours instead of minutes. The car was back up and running the next day and I believe the bug has been patched as well EDIT: Imagine the bubble you're in when downvoting factual information is the norm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 25 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 79 points 2 years ago (6 children) That’s not something that should happen to a car that is on the road. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] catloaf@lemm.ee 32 points 2 years ago (2 children) Technically a car wash is not the road. Checkmate, atheists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago Waiting for the day we see the advisement to put the Tesla into carwash mode during heavy rainfalls. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago But the Cybertruck is advertised as an off-road vehicle. Elonvangelists in shambles. permalink fedilink source parent [+] buttfarts@lemy.lol 2 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It did not. The vehicle was in the owner's garage. I believe it was water in the charging port that caused the front screen to freeze up. Everything else was working normally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago That doesn’t improve things. And by production car on the road I mean “by a car that is in production and allowed to drive on the road” though I admit it was vague and easy to take literally in that regard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago My “car wash mode” is rolling up the windows, haven’t ever had the car I own brick itself on me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] buttfarts@lemy.lol 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) Personally I would enjoy spending $100k+ to get to be the beta tester for a half-baked product permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago Don't worry, the guy who came up with the Idea was fully baked permalink fedilink source parent [–] experbia@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* wow. does the factory that made it have absolutely no quality control processes in place? I would be embarrassed to own a vehicle that did that, and more than a little worried about its safety. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago Unacceptable behavior for a vehicle. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 7 points 2 years ago Its embarrassing that people are downvoting a post providing context. They're acting like you are here defending the cyber truck. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Model Ys don't handle the rain: https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/scottish-couple-facing-33k-repair-bill-after-driving-tesla-in-heavy-rain permalink fedilink source parent [–] demonsword@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (9 children) complaining about downvotes usually gets you more downvotes more often than not permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (8 children) It's not the downvotes that's the issue. It's the insanity of being blinded by hatred to the point of not being able to think straight anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] demonsword@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (7 children) you might disagree with me here, but IMO hating Musk (or any billionaire) is morally right though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (6 children) Hate is a toxic emotion. It poisons your own mind but leaves the target of it unaffected. Also as I don't believe in free will, hate is an uncompatible concept with my world view anyway. It assumes the person I'm directing my anger towards is personally responsible for who they are. In my view they could not be otherwise. I wouldn't hate a bear for being violent so I also don't hate Musk for being an asshole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) How does one not believe in free will? Asking seriously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) Just a heads up that this topic makes some people feel really uncomfortable to think about. It's because I don't think the "self" exists either. Without a self there's nothing that even could make decisions to begin with. I don't believe in some "entity" or a "soul" somewhere inside our heads, behind our faces, looking out into the world and making independent decisions. We're not authoring our thoughts and actions. They're just appearing. You don't know what you're going to think next, and you can't think of a thought before you think it. You can even observe this happening in real time by just paying close enought attention. We're biological beings that consist of matter, and matter obeys the laws of physics. "Free will" as in "I could've done otherwise" doesn't make any logical sense to me. If we could go back in time we'd all do the same things all over again. That's how deterministic universe works. The key factor here is consciousness. It feels like something to be. The sense of free will is probably useful belief for survival, but for the very least I'd argue that it's not like most people think it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) That's an interesting take. Strikes me as a bit nihilistic, but I'm sure this is the most surface of explanations lacking the depth of concept to really get the idea across. I can't say it jives with me, but I have heard less reasonable notions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Yeah I find it interesting how many see the idea as negative. I find it freeing in many ways and it helps me make much better sense of the world and people, I think. Sam Harris can explain it better than I ever could in case you're interested. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 1 point 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): Sam Harris Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago I'll give him a listen. I enjoy hearing different points of view. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Thank you for the fact check permalink fedilink source parent [–] joneskind@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (6 children) It rusts under the rain permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SecretSauces@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago You forgot to turn on Rain Mode permalink fedilink source parent [–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 years ago To be fair, it also rusts when not under the rain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I saw one painted this weekend. Is the factory finally painting them or is it aftermarket? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I’ve seen people putting wraps on them as well in my city. Probably trying to hide the rust since it’s rains quite a bit here permalink fedilink source parent [+] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah but surely not to the point of getting disabled? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago oh, they shut off in the rain too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 95 points 2 years ago (34 children) A cyber truck had a major malfunction and stopped working because it went into a car wash without being in “car wash” mode. The joke is that Cybertrucks cannot get wet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 34 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago (6 children) They also rust, like, instantly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (3 children) Because the stainless steel is not stainless and a protective coating is optional, not standard like... you know, on every other car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] JayleneSlide@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stainless steel that gets coated is no longer stainless steel. Stainless steel requires exposure to sufficient oxygen in order to maintain the protective oxide layer. These are rudder bolts from the same gudgeon on my sailboat. The black stuff is anoxic corrosion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago TIL. I suppose that's why nobody makes car body panels out of it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] timmy_dean_sausage@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well, it's very meaningful to continue to support your emotional support corporations. They need us as much as we need them. That's why you need to buy the product, and the "continued use" package. They're not charging extra for standard things just to charge extra. It's about the continued closeness in your relationship with daddy Tesla. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 5 points 2 years ago And will get stained by tree sap. You should avoid the extreme use-case of parking near trees. It's also why I love the fact that it has a tent accessory, despite being a car that can't handle being outside. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* Except it doesn't. It's not the body panels that are rusting. It's the airborne iron particles (mostly) from brake rotors that land on the stainless steel and react with it causing rust but it's actually just surface contamination and cleans up rather easily. This is in no way issue exclusive to the Cybertruck. It just doesn't react like that on a painted surface. Fallout remover is a commonly used product among car detailers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 years ago Which is doubly funny when you remember Elon claimed at one point the Cybertruck could be used as a boat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (25 children) Ah.. If I remember correctly; not being in a carwash mode caused the screen to freeze and because of a bug the hard reset took hours instead of minutes. The car was back up and running the next day and I believe the bug has been patched as well EDIT: Imagine the bubble you're in when downvoting factual information is the norm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 25 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 79 points 2 years ago (6 children) That’s not something that should happen to a car that is on the road. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] catloaf@lemm.ee 32 points 2 years ago (2 children) Technically a car wash is not the road. Checkmate, atheists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago Waiting for the day we see the advisement to put the Tesla into carwash mode during heavy rainfalls. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago But the Cybertruck is advertised as an off-road vehicle. Elonvangelists in shambles. permalink fedilink source parent [+] buttfarts@lemy.lol 2 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It did not. The vehicle was in the owner's garage. I believe it was water in the charging port that caused the front screen to freeze up. Everything else was working normally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago That doesn’t improve things. And by production car on the road I mean “by a car that is in production and allowed to drive on the road” though I admit it was vague and easy to take literally in that regard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago My “car wash mode” is rolling up the windows, haven’t ever had the car I own brick itself on me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] buttfarts@lemy.lol 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) Personally I would enjoy spending $100k+ to get to be the beta tester for a half-baked product permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago Don't worry, the guy who came up with the Idea was fully baked permalink fedilink source parent [–] experbia@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* wow. does the factory that made it have absolutely no quality control processes in place? I would be embarrassed to own a vehicle that did that, and more than a little worried about its safety. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago Unacceptable behavior for a vehicle. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 7 points 2 years ago Its embarrassing that people are downvoting a post providing context. They're acting like you are here defending the cyber truck. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Model Ys don't handle the rain: https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/scottish-couple-facing-33k-repair-bill-after-driving-tesla-in-heavy-rain permalink fedilink source parent [–] demonsword@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (9 children) complaining about downvotes usually gets you more downvotes more often than not permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (8 children) It's not the downvotes that's the issue. It's the insanity of being blinded by hatred to the point of not being able to think straight anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] demonsword@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (7 children) you might disagree with me here, but IMO hating Musk (or any billionaire) is morally right though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (6 children) Hate is a toxic emotion. It poisons your own mind but leaves the target of it unaffected. Also as I don't believe in free will, hate is an uncompatible concept with my world view anyway. It assumes the person I'm directing my anger towards is personally responsible for who they are. In my view they could not be otherwise. I wouldn't hate a bear for being violent so I also don't hate Musk for being an asshole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) How does one not believe in free will? Asking seriously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) Just a heads up that this topic makes some people feel really uncomfortable to think about. It's because I don't think the "self" exists either. Without a self there's nothing that even could make decisions to begin with. I don't believe in some "entity" or a "soul" somewhere inside our heads, behind our faces, looking out into the world and making independent decisions. We're not authoring our thoughts and actions. They're just appearing. You don't know what you're going to think next, and you can't think of a thought before you think it. You can even observe this happening in real time by just paying close enought attention. We're biological beings that consist of matter, and matter obeys the laws of physics. "Free will" as in "I could've done otherwise" doesn't make any logical sense to me. If we could go back in time we'd all do the same things all over again. That's how deterministic universe works. The key factor here is consciousness. It feels like something to be. The sense of free will is probably useful belief for survival, but for the very least I'd argue that it's not like most people think it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) That's an interesting take. Strikes me as a bit nihilistic, but I'm sure this is the most surface of explanations lacking the depth of concept to really get the idea across. I can't say it jives with me, but I have heard less reasonable notions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Yeah I find it interesting how many see the idea as negative. I find it freeing in many ways and it helps me make much better sense of the world and people, I think. Sam Harris can explain it better than I ever could in case you're interested. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 1 point 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): Sam Harris Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago I'll give him a listen. I enjoy hearing different points of view. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Thank you for the fact check permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago (6 children) They also rust, like, instantly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (3 children) Because the stainless steel is not stainless and a protective coating is optional, not standard like... you know, on every other car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] JayleneSlide@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stainless steel that gets coated is no longer stainless steel. Stainless steel requires exposure to sufficient oxygen in order to maintain the protective oxide layer. These are rudder bolts from the same gudgeon on my sailboat. The black stuff is anoxic corrosion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago TIL. I suppose that's why nobody makes car body panels out of it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] timmy_dean_sausage@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well, it's very meaningful to continue to support your emotional support corporations. They need us as much as we need them. That's why you need to buy the product, and the "continued use" package. They're not charging extra for standard things just to charge extra. It's about the continued closeness in your relationship with daddy Tesla. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 5 points 2 years ago And will get stained by tree sap. You should avoid the extreme use-case of parking near trees. It's also why I love the fact that it has a tent accessory, despite being a car that can't handle being outside. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* Except it doesn't. It's not the body panels that are rusting. It's the airborne iron particles (mostly) from brake rotors that land on the stainless steel and react with it causing rust but it's actually just surface contamination and cleans up rather easily. This is in no way issue exclusive to the Cybertruck. It just doesn't react like that on a painted surface. Fallout remover is a commonly used product among car detailers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (3 children) Because the stainless steel is not stainless and a protective coating is optional, not standard like... you know, on every other car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] JayleneSlide@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stainless steel that gets coated is no longer stainless steel. Stainless steel requires exposure to sufficient oxygen in order to maintain the protective oxide layer. These are rudder bolts from the same gudgeon on my sailboat. The black stuff is anoxic corrosion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago TIL. I suppose that's why nobody makes car body panels out of it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] timmy_dean_sausage@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well, it's very meaningful to continue to support your emotional support corporations. They need us as much as we need them. That's why you need to buy the product, and the "continued use" package. They're not charging extra for standard things just to charge extra. It's about the continued closeness in your relationship with daddy Tesla. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JayleneSlide@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stainless steel that gets coated is no longer stainless steel. Stainless steel requires exposure to sufficient oxygen in order to maintain the protective oxide layer. These are rudder bolts from the same gudgeon on my sailboat. The black stuff is anoxic corrosion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago TIL. I suppose that's why nobody makes car body panels out of it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago TIL. I suppose that's why nobody makes car body panels out of it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] timmy_dean_sausage@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well, it's very meaningful to continue to support your emotional support corporations. They need us as much as we need them. That's why you need to buy the product, and the "continued use" package. They're not charging extra for standard things just to charge extra. It's about the continued closeness in your relationship with daddy Tesla. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 5 points 2 years ago And will get stained by tree sap. You should avoid the extreme use-case of parking near trees. It's also why I love the fact that it has a tent accessory, despite being a car that can't handle being outside. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* Except it doesn't. It's not the body panels that are rusting. It's the airborne iron particles (mostly) from brake rotors that land on the stainless steel and react with it causing rust but it's actually just surface contamination and cleans up rather easily. This is in no way issue exclusive to the Cybertruck. It just doesn't react like that on a painted surface. Fallout remover is a commonly used product among car detailers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 years ago Which is doubly funny when you remember Elon claimed at one point the Cybertruck could be used as a boat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (25 children) Ah.. If I remember correctly; not being in a carwash mode caused the screen to freeze and because of a bug the hard reset took hours instead of minutes. The car was back up and running the next day and I believe the bug has been patched as well EDIT: Imagine the bubble you're in when downvoting factual information is the norm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 25 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 79 points 2 years ago (6 children) That’s not something that should happen to a car that is on the road. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] catloaf@lemm.ee 32 points 2 years ago (2 children) Technically a car wash is not the road. Checkmate, atheists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago Waiting for the day we see the advisement to put the Tesla into carwash mode during heavy rainfalls. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago But the Cybertruck is advertised as an off-road vehicle. Elonvangelists in shambles. permalink fedilink source parent [+] buttfarts@lemy.lol 2 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It did not. The vehicle was in the owner's garage. I believe it was water in the charging port that caused the front screen to freeze up. Everything else was working normally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago That doesn’t improve things. And by production car on the road I mean “by a car that is in production and allowed to drive on the road” though I admit it was vague and easy to take literally in that regard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago My “car wash mode” is rolling up the windows, haven’t ever had the car I own brick itself on me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] buttfarts@lemy.lol 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) Personally I would enjoy spending $100k+ to get to be the beta tester for a half-baked product permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago Don't worry, the guy who came up with the Idea was fully baked permalink fedilink source parent [–] experbia@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* wow. does the factory that made it have absolutely no quality control processes in place? I would be embarrassed to own a vehicle that did that, and more than a little worried about its safety. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago Unacceptable behavior for a vehicle. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 7 points 2 years ago Its embarrassing that people are downvoting a post providing context. They're acting like you are here defending the cyber truck. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Model Ys don't handle the rain: https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/scottish-couple-facing-33k-repair-bill-after-driving-tesla-in-heavy-rain permalink fedilink source parent [–] demonsword@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (9 children) complaining about downvotes usually gets you more downvotes more often than not permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (8 children) It's not the downvotes that's the issue. It's the insanity of being blinded by hatred to the point of not being able to think straight anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] demonsword@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (7 children) you might disagree with me here, but IMO hating Musk (or any billionaire) is morally right though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (6 children) Hate is a toxic emotion. It poisons your own mind but leaves the target of it unaffected. Also as I don't believe in free will, hate is an uncompatible concept with my world view anyway. It assumes the person I'm directing my anger towards is personally responsible for who they are. In my view they could not be otherwise. I wouldn't hate a bear for being violent so I also don't hate Musk for being an asshole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) How does one not believe in free will? Asking seriously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) Just a heads up that this topic makes some people feel really uncomfortable to think about. It's because I don't think the "self" exists either. Without a self there's nothing that even could make decisions to begin with. I don't believe in some "entity" or a "soul" somewhere inside our heads, behind our faces, looking out into the world and making independent decisions. We're not authoring our thoughts and actions. They're just appearing. You don't know what you're going to think next, and you can't think of a thought before you think it. You can even observe this happening in real time by just paying close enought attention. We're biological beings that consist of matter, and matter obeys the laws of physics. "Free will" as in "I could've done otherwise" doesn't make any logical sense to me. If we could go back in time we'd all do the same things all over again. That's how deterministic universe works. The key factor here is consciousness. It feels like something to be. The sense of free will is probably useful belief for survival, but for the very least I'd argue that it's not like most people think it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) That's an interesting take. Strikes me as a bit nihilistic, but I'm sure this is the most surface of explanations lacking the depth of concept to really get the idea across. I can't say it jives with me, but I have heard less reasonable notions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Yeah I find it interesting how many see the idea as negative. I find it freeing in many ways and it helps me make much better sense of the world and people, I think. Sam Harris can explain it better than I ever could in case you're interested. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 1 point 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): Sam Harris Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago I'll give him a listen. I enjoy hearing different points of view. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Thank you for the fact check permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 79 points 2 years ago (6 children) That’s not something that should happen to a car that is on the road. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] catloaf@lemm.ee 32 points 2 years ago (2 children) Technically a car wash is not the road. Checkmate, atheists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago Waiting for the day we see the advisement to put the Tesla into carwash mode during heavy rainfalls. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago But the Cybertruck is advertised as an off-road vehicle. Elonvangelists in shambles. permalink fedilink source parent [+] buttfarts@lemy.lol 2 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It did not. The vehicle was in the owner's garage. I believe it was water in the charging port that caused the front screen to freeze up. Everything else was working normally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago That doesn’t improve things. And by production car on the road I mean “by a car that is in production and allowed to drive on the road” though I admit it was vague and easy to take literally in that regard. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 32 points 2 years ago (2 children) Technically a car wash is not the road. Checkmate, atheists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago Waiting for the day we see the advisement to put the Tesla into carwash mode during heavy rainfalls. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago But the Cybertruck is advertised as an off-road vehicle. Elonvangelists in shambles. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago Waiting for the day we see the advisement to put the Tesla into carwash mode during heavy rainfalls. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago But the Cybertruck is advertised as an off-road vehicle. Elonvangelists in shambles. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It did not. The vehicle was in the owner's garage. I believe it was water in the charging port that caused the front screen to freeze up. Everything else was working normally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago That doesn’t improve things. And by production car on the road I mean “by a car that is in production and allowed to drive on the road” though I admit it was vague and easy to take literally in that regard. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago That doesn’t improve things. And by production car on the road I mean “by a car that is in production and allowed to drive on the road” though I admit it was vague and easy to take literally in that regard. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago My “car wash mode” is rolling up the windows, haven’t ever had the car I own brick itself on me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] buttfarts@lemy.lol 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) Personally I would enjoy spending $100k+ to get to be the beta tester for a half-baked product permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago Don't worry, the guy who came up with the Idea was fully baked permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago Don't worry, the guy who came up with the Idea was fully baked permalink fedilink source parent
[–] experbia@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* wow. does the factory that made it have absolutely no quality control processes in place? I would be embarrassed to own a vehicle that did that, and more than a little worried about its safety. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago Unacceptable behavior for a vehicle. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 7 points 2 years ago Its embarrassing that people are downvoting a post providing context. They're acting like you are here defending the cyber truck. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Model Ys don't handle the rain: https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/scottish-couple-facing-33k-repair-bill-after-driving-tesla-in-heavy-rain permalink fedilink source parent
[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (9 children) complaining about downvotes usually gets you more downvotes more often than not permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (8 children) It's not the downvotes that's the issue. It's the insanity of being blinded by hatred to the point of not being able to think straight anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] demonsword@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (7 children) you might disagree with me here, but IMO hating Musk (or any billionaire) is morally right though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (6 children) Hate is a toxic emotion. It poisons your own mind but leaves the target of it unaffected. Also as I don't believe in free will, hate is an uncompatible concept with my world view anyway. It assumes the person I'm directing my anger towards is personally responsible for who they are. In my view they could not be otherwise. I wouldn't hate a bear for being violent so I also don't hate Musk for being an asshole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) How does one not believe in free will? Asking seriously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) Just a heads up that this topic makes some people feel really uncomfortable to think about. It's because I don't think the "self" exists either. Without a self there's nothing that even could make decisions to begin with. I don't believe in some "entity" or a "soul" somewhere inside our heads, behind our faces, looking out into the world and making independent decisions. We're not authoring our thoughts and actions. They're just appearing. You don't know what you're going to think next, and you can't think of a thought before you think it. You can even observe this happening in real time by just paying close enought attention. We're biological beings that consist of matter, and matter obeys the laws of physics. "Free will" as in "I could've done otherwise" doesn't make any logical sense to me. If we could go back in time we'd all do the same things all over again. That's how deterministic universe works. The key factor here is consciousness. It feels like something to be. The sense of free will is probably useful belief for survival, but for the very least I'd argue that it's not like most people think it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) That's an interesting take. Strikes me as a bit nihilistic, but I'm sure this is the most surface of explanations lacking the depth of concept to really get the idea across. I can't say it jives with me, but I have heard less reasonable notions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Yeah I find it interesting how many see the idea as negative. I find it freeing in many ways and it helps me make much better sense of the world and people, I think. Sam Harris can explain it better than I ever could in case you're interested. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 1 point 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): Sam Harris Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago I'll give him a listen. I enjoy hearing different points of view. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (8 children) It's not the downvotes that's the issue. It's the insanity of being blinded by hatred to the point of not being able to think straight anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] demonsword@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (7 children) you might disagree with me here, but IMO hating Musk (or any billionaire) is morally right though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (6 children) Hate is a toxic emotion. It poisons your own mind but leaves the target of it unaffected. Also as I don't believe in free will, hate is an uncompatible concept with my world view anyway. It assumes the person I'm directing my anger towards is personally responsible for who they are. In my view they could not be otherwise. I wouldn't hate a bear for being violent so I also don't hate Musk for being an asshole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) How does one not believe in free will? Asking seriously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) Just a heads up that this topic makes some people feel really uncomfortable to think about. It's because I don't think the "self" exists either. Without a self there's nothing that even could make decisions to begin with. I don't believe in some "entity" or a "soul" somewhere inside our heads, behind our faces, looking out into the world and making independent decisions. We're not authoring our thoughts and actions. They're just appearing. You don't know what you're going to think next, and you can't think of a thought before you think it. You can even observe this happening in real time by just paying close enought attention. We're biological beings that consist of matter, and matter obeys the laws of physics. "Free will" as in "I could've done otherwise" doesn't make any logical sense to me. If we could go back in time we'd all do the same things all over again. That's how deterministic universe works. The key factor here is consciousness. It feels like something to be. The sense of free will is probably useful belief for survival, but for the very least I'd argue that it's not like most people think it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) That's an interesting take. Strikes me as a bit nihilistic, but I'm sure this is the most surface of explanations lacking the depth of concept to really get the idea across. I can't say it jives with me, but I have heard less reasonable notions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Yeah I find it interesting how many see the idea as negative. I find it freeing in many ways and it helps me make much better sense of the world and people, I think. Sam Harris can explain it better than I ever could in case you're interested. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 1 point 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): Sam Harris Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago I'll give him a listen. I enjoy hearing different points of view. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (7 children) you might disagree with me here, but IMO hating Musk (or any billionaire) is morally right though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (6 children) Hate is a toxic emotion. It poisons your own mind but leaves the target of it unaffected. Also as I don't believe in free will, hate is an uncompatible concept with my world view anyway. It assumes the person I'm directing my anger towards is personally responsible for who they are. In my view they could not be otherwise. I wouldn't hate a bear for being violent so I also don't hate Musk for being an asshole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) How does one not believe in free will? Asking seriously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) Just a heads up that this topic makes some people feel really uncomfortable to think about. It's because I don't think the "self" exists either. Without a self there's nothing that even could make decisions to begin with. I don't believe in some "entity" or a "soul" somewhere inside our heads, behind our faces, looking out into the world and making independent decisions. We're not authoring our thoughts and actions. They're just appearing. You don't know what you're going to think next, and you can't think of a thought before you think it. You can even observe this happening in real time by just paying close enought attention. We're biological beings that consist of matter, and matter obeys the laws of physics. "Free will" as in "I could've done otherwise" doesn't make any logical sense to me. If we could go back in time we'd all do the same things all over again. That's how deterministic universe works. The key factor here is consciousness. It feels like something to be. The sense of free will is probably useful belief for survival, but for the very least I'd argue that it's not like most people think it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) That's an interesting take. Strikes me as a bit nihilistic, but I'm sure this is the most surface of explanations lacking the depth of concept to really get the idea across. I can't say it jives with me, but I have heard less reasonable notions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Yeah I find it interesting how many see the idea as negative. I find it freeing in many ways and it helps me make much better sense of the world and people, I think. Sam Harris can explain it better than I ever could in case you're interested. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 1 point 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): Sam Harris Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago I'll give him a listen. I enjoy hearing different points of view. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (6 children) Hate is a toxic emotion. It poisons your own mind but leaves the target of it unaffected. Also as I don't believe in free will, hate is an uncompatible concept with my world view anyway. It assumes the person I'm directing my anger towards is personally responsible for who they are. In my view they could not be otherwise. I wouldn't hate a bear for being violent so I also don't hate Musk for being an asshole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) How does one not believe in free will? Asking seriously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) Just a heads up that this topic makes some people feel really uncomfortable to think about. It's because I don't think the "self" exists either. Without a self there's nothing that even could make decisions to begin with. I don't believe in some "entity" or a "soul" somewhere inside our heads, behind our faces, looking out into the world and making independent decisions. We're not authoring our thoughts and actions. They're just appearing. You don't know what you're going to think next, and you can't think of a thought before you think it. You can even observe this happening in real time by just paying close enought attention. We're biological beings that consist of matter, and matter obeys the laws of physics. "Free will" as in "I could've done otherwise" doesn't make any logical sense to me. If we could go back in time we'd all do the same things all over again. That's how deterministic universe works. The key factor here is consciousness. It feels like something to be. The sense of free will is probably useful belief for survival, but for the very least I'd argue that it's not like most people think it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) That's an interesting take. Strikes me as a bit nihilistic, but I'm sure this is the most surface of explanations lacking the depth of concept to really get the idea across. I can't say it jives with me, but I have heard less reasonable notions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Yeah I find it interesting how many see the idea as negative. I find it freeing in many ways and it helps me make much better sense of the world and people, I think. Sam Harris can explain it better than I ever could in case you're interested. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 1 point 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): Sam Harris Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago I'll give him a listen. I enjoy hearing different points of view. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) How does one not believe in free will? Asking seriously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) Just a heads up that this topic makes some people feel really uncomfortable to think about. It's because I don't think the "self" exists either. Without a self there's nothing that even could make decisions to begin with. I don't believe in some "entity" or a "soul" somewhere inside our heads, behind our faces, looking out into the world and making independent decisions. We're not authoring our thoughts and actions. They're just appearing. You don't know what you're going to think next, and you can't think of a thought before you think it. You can even observe this happening in real time by just paying close enought attention. We're biological beings that consist of matter, and matter obeys the laws of physics. "Free will" as in "I could've done otherwise" doesn't make any logical sense to me. If we could go back in time we'd all do the same things all over again. That's how deterministic universe works. The key factor here is consciousness. It feels like something to be. The sense of free will is probably useful belief for survival, but for the very least I'd argue that it's not like most people think it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) That's an interesting take. Strikes me as a bit nihilistic, but I'm sure this is the most surface of explanations lacking the depth of concept to really get the idea across. I can't say it jives with me, but I have heard less reasonable notions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Yeah I find it interesting how many see the idea as negative. I find it freeing in many ways and it helps me make much better sense of the world and people, I think. Sam Harris can explain it better than I ever could in case you're interested. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 1 point 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): Sam Harris Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago I'll give him a listen. I enjoy hearing different points of view. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) Just a heads up that this topic makes some people feel really uncomfortable to think about. It's because I don't think the "self" exists either. Without a self there's nothing that even could make decisions to begin with. I don't believe in some "entity" or a "soul" somewhere inside our heads, behind our faces, looking out into the world and making independent decisions. We're not authoring our thoughts and actions. They're just appearing. You don't know what you're going to think next, and you can't think of a thought before you think it. You can even observe this happening in real time by just paying close enought attention. We're biological beings that consist of matter, and matter obeys the laws of physics. "Free will" as in "I could've done otherwise" doesn't make any logical sense to me. If we could go back in time we'd all do the same things all over again. That's how deterministic universe works. The key factor here is consciousness. It feels like something to be. The sense of free will is probably useful belief for survival, but for the very least I'd argue that it's not like most people think it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) That's an interesting take. Strikes me as a bit nihilistic, but I'm sure this is the most surface of explanations lacking the depth of concept to really get the idea across. I can't say it jives with me, but I have heard less reasonable notions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Yeah I find it interesting how many see the idea as negative. I find it freeing in many ways and it helps me make much better sense of the world and people, I think. Sam Harris can explain it better than I ever could in case you're interested. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 1 point 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): Sam Harris Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago I'll give him a listen. I enjoy hearing different points of view. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) That's an interesting take. Strikes me as a bit nihilistic, but I'm sure this is the most surface of explanations lacking the depth of concept to really get the idea across. I can't say it jives with me, but I have heard less reasonable notions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Yeah I find it interesting how many see the idea as negative. I find it freeing in many ways and it helps me make much better sense of the world and people, I think. Sam Harris can explain it better than I ever could in case you're interested. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 1 point 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): Sam Harris Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago I'll give him a listen. I enjoy hearing different points of view. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Yeah I find it interesting how many see the idea as negative. I find it freeing in many ways and it helps me make much better sense of the world and people, I think. Sam Harris can explain it better than I ever could in case you're interested. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 1 point 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): Sam Harris Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago I'll give him a listen. I enjoy hearing different points of view. permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago I'll give him a listen. I enjoy hearing different points of view. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Thank you for the fact check permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joneskind@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (6 children) It rusts under the rain permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SecretSauces@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago You forgot to turn on Rain Mode permalink fedilink source parent [–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 years ago To be fair, it also rusts when not under the rain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I saw one painted this weekend. Is the factory finally painting them or is it aftermarket? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I’ve seen people putting wraps on them as well in my city. Probably trying to hide the rust since it’s rains quite a bit here permalink fedilink source parent [+] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah but surely not to the point of getting disabled? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago oh, they shut off in the rain too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SecretSauces@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago You forgot to turn on Rain Mode permalink fedilink source parent
[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 years ago To be fair, it also rusts when not under the rain. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I saw one painted this weekend. Is the factory finally painting them or is it aftermarket? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I’ve seen people putting wraps on them as well in my city. Probably trying to hide the rust since it’s rains quite a bit here permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I’ve seen people putting wraps on them as well in my city. Probably trying to hide the rust since it’s rains quite a bit here permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah but surely not to the point of getting disabled? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago oh, they shut off in the rain too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago oh, they shut off in the rain too. permalink fedilink source parent