▲ 1065 ▼ Google Chrome’s plan to limit ad blocking extensions kicks off next week (arstechnica.com) submitted 2 years ago by AnActOfCreation@programming.dev to c/technology@lemmy.world 357 comments fedilink hide all child comments Reminder to switch browsers if you haven't already! Google Chrome is starting to phase out older, more capable ad blocking extensions in favor of the more limited Manifest V3 system. The Manifest V3 system has been criticized by groups like the Electronic Frontier Foundation for restricting the capabilities of web extensions. Google has made concessions to Manifest V3, but limitations on content filtering remain a source of skepticism and concern.
[+] Phegan@lemmy.world 61 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (10 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] tal@lemmy.today 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children) Firefox's marketshare is small enough relative to Chrome's that some websites might just block it at this point, if Chrome users mean ad revenue and Firefox users don't. https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share Firefox has 2.88% marketshare. Chrome has 65.34% marketshare. It's gonna be interesting to see what happens... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (1 child) User agent switcher permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago Based and incognito private mode pilled permalink fedilink source parent [–] taiyang@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago It doesn't necessary cost a meaningful amount to a site to allow Firefox users to view it; it does however cost to make it compatible with non-chromium browsers. For most viewing that's a non issue (I mean, most crms are going to work) but specific sites might stop working (YouTube already got caught throttling firefox, and tbf, streaming would cost more than reading an article or something). permalink fedilink source parent [–] gila@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago Firefox blocks statcounter tracking by default. It's an inherently flawed metric, though Firefox is definitely in the minority still vs Chrome permalink fedilink source parent [–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 years ago The numbers may be indicative of the general trend, but every single privacy oriented browser and so forth is spoofing the user agent, pretending to be the most widespread and popular os and browser. Which is why privacy checks on my Linux+librewolf PC return win10 with chrome. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Spotlight7573@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) My worry is what the EU changes might mean for the mobile web and beyond. With iOS's market share and only the same rendering engine Apple used in Safari being available, sites/apps had to support more than just Chrome. If forcing iOS users to Chrome is an option (either through pointing them to the browser or an app built with that rendering engine), then there's even less of an incentive to test with anything else. It's great that users get more choice but if providers use it as an opportunity to reduce support for other browsers then it might not be a great benefit after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago Firefox and WebKit for all! permalink fedilink source parent [–] illi@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I did have some issues on firefox om some sites. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) But I will raise people one more. Waterfox Never heard of it, I prefer LibreWolf https://librewolf.net/#what-is-librewolf but I'm gonna list some other popular forks TOR Browser (anti-censorship enhanced fork, bundled with TOR network) https://www.torproject.org/ GNUzilla IceCat (GNU version) https://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/ Pale Moon (able to use old XUL based extensions) https://www.palemoon.org/ Mullvad Browser (a security hardened fork, IIRC based on TOR, made by Mullvad VPN company) https://mullvad.net/en/browser ANDROID (Fennec/Fenix) Fennec F-Droid (Fennec version available on F-Droid, clean of propietary blobs) https://f-droid.org/packages/org.mozilla.fennec_fdroid/ https://gitlab.com/relan/fennecbuild Mull (hardened fork of Fenix) https://gitlab.com/divested-mobile/mull-fenix IceRaven (yet another hardened fork of Fenix, able to install an extended list of extensions) https://github.com/fork-maintainers/iceraven-browser permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tal@lemmy.today 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children) Firefox's marketshare is small enough relative to Chrome's that some websites might just block it at this point, if Chrome users mean ad revenue and Firefox users don't. https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share Firefox has 2.88% marketshare. Chrome has 65.34% marketshare. It's gonna be interesting to see what happens... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (1 child) User agent switcher permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago Based and incognito private mode pilled permalink fedilink source parent [–] taiyang@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago It doesn't necessary cost a meaningful amount to a site to allow Firefox users to view it; it does however cost to make it compatible with non-chromium browsers. For most viewing that's a non issue (I mean, most crms are going to work) but specific sites might stop working (YouTube already got caught throttling firefox, and tbf, streaming would cost more than reading an article or something). permalink fedilink source parent [–] gila@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago Firefox blocks statcounter tracking by default. It's an inherently flawed metric, though Firefox is definitely in the minority still vs Chrome permalink fedilink source parent [–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 years ago The numbers may be indicative of the general trend, but every single privacy oriented browser and so forth is spoofing the user agent, pretending to be the most widespread and popular os and browser. Which is why privacy checks on my Linux+librewolf PC return win10 with chrome. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Spotlight7573@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) My worry is what the EU changes might mean for the mobile web and beyond. With iOS's market share and only the same rendering engine Apple used in Safari being available, sites/apps had to support more than just Chrome. If forcing iOS users to Chrome is an option (either through pointing them to the browser or an app built with that rendering engine), then there's even less of an incentive to test with anything else. It's great that users get more choice but if providers use it as an opportunity to reduce support for other browsers then it might not be a great benefit after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago Firefox and WebKit for all! permalink fedilink source parent [–] illi@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I did have some issues on firefox om some sites. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (1 child) User agent switcher permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago Based and incognito private mode pilled permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago Based and incognito private mode pilled permalink fedilink source parent
[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago It doesn't necessary cost a meaningful amount to a site to allow Firefox users to view it; it does however cost to make it compatible with non-chromium browsers. For most viewing that's a non issue (I mean, most crms are going to work) but specific sites might stop working (YouTube already got caught throttling firefox, and tbf, streaming would cost more than reading an article or something). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gila@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago Firefox blocks statcounter tracking by default. It's an inherently flawed metric, though Firefox is definitely in the minority still vs Chrome permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 years ago The numbers may be indicative of the general trend, but every single privacy oriented browser and so forth is spoofing the user agent, pretending to be the most widespread and popular os and browser. Which is why privacy checks on my Linux+librewolf PC return win10 with chrome. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Spotlight7573@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) My worry is what the EU changes might mean for the mobile web and beyond. With iOS's market share and only the same rendering engine Apple used in Safari being available, sites/apps had to support more than just Chrome. If forcing iOS users to Chrome is an option (either through pointing them to the browser or an app built with that rendering engine), then there's even less of an incentive to test with anything else. It's great that users get more choice but if providers use it as an opportunity to reduce support for other browsers then it might not be a great benefit after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago Firefox and WebKit for all! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago Firefox and WebKit for all! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] illi@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I did have some issues on firefox om some sites. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) But I will raise people one more. Waterfox Never heard of it, I prefer LibreWolf https://librewolf.net/#what-is-librewolf but I'm gonna list some other popular forks TOR Browser (anti-censorship enhanced fork, bundled with TOR network) https://www.torproject.org/ GNUzilla IceCat (GNU version) https://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/ Pale Moon (able to use old XUL based extensions) https://www.palemoon.org/ Mullvad Browser (a security hardened fork, IIRC based on TOR, made by Mullvad VPN company) https://mullvad.net/en/browser ANDROID (Fennec/Fenix) Fennec F-Droid (Fennec version available on F-Droid, clean of propietary blobs) https://f-droid.org/packages/org.mozilla.fennec_fdroid/ https://gitlab.com/relan/fennecbuild Mull (hardened fork of Fenix) https://gitlab.com/divested-mobile/mull-fenix IceRaven (yet another hardened fork of Fenix, able to install an extended list of extensions) https://github.com/fork-maintainers/iceraven-browser permalink fedilink source parent