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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What's the backstory with Devuan? I first heard of it from someone licking Andrew Lee's boots after the Freenode debacle, and that instantly branded it as really suspect. But it might just be Debian minus systemd?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

In 2015 Debian officially dropped the requirement that packages support sysvinit scripts and only required systemd support. Devuan is indeed intended to be a fork that only removes systemd and maintains support for other inits like sysvinit, openrc, runit, etc.

Last time I looked (and it has been a while) the anti-systemd origin story had attracted a few nutters, but I didn't see anything suspicious about the dev team itself...

EDIT: I see a couple connections to cryptocoin crap, but no smoking gun yet. Still digging.

EDIT2: wtf am I looking at: https://dyne.org/software/dynebolic/ strange vibes all over this.

EDIT3: Seems like the cryptocoiner, Set Hallström AKA Setto Sakrecoer, is the main dev/organizer of devuan? The structure of devuan and dyne.org does not seem to be set out, instead it's an informal "do-ocracy" with a whole mess of normal and weird projects in a loose constellation.