▲ 892 ▼ Helldivers 2 went from one of the most beloved Steam games to one of the most hated pretty quickly (programming.dev) submitted 2 years ago by pro_grammer@programming.dev to c/steam@lemmy.ml 283 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 71 points 2 years ago (12 children) Weren’t we all discussing enshittification the other day? permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] xradeon@lemmy.one 57 points 2 years ago More like daily now unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent [+] almost1337@lemm.ee -57 points 2 years ago (10 children) I'm not sure how requiring an account in addition to the Steam account is enshittification. Especially given that it was intended to be the case from the start, but they temporarily disabled it due to technical issues. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Zatore@lemm.ee 37 points 2 years ago (7 children) That sounds like deliberate deception. That's far shittier than being up front. They should have made a PS account optional. Cyberpunk does this, you don't need an account to launch the game. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] almost1337@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (6 children) There was always a banner on the Steam page that states "Requires 3rd-Party Account: PlayStation Network (Supports Linking to Steam Account)" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (5 children) You don't need one for Horizon, God of War, or Spider-Man. And I'm sure you don't need it for Uncharted or Day's Gone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Bongles@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] almost1337@lemm.ee -9 points 2 years ago (3 children) Do any of those games have multiplayer, though? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] knightly@pawb.social 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) Sure seems like Helldivers' multiplayer works just fine without a Sony account. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] almost1337@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) All of their support and controls are tied to the PSN account system, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NecroParagon@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago You're right. That's why they're being made to do this. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 27 points 2 years ago It's completely unnecessary, PlayStation accounts aren't available in many countries which would make the game inaccessible to people who already bought it if it's mandatory, and Sony has averaged a data breach every two years for the past 15 years so people don't want to give them any personal data. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 22 points 2 years ago man I think people can take things too far and act like drama queens sometimes but yeah, forcing another unnecessary account onto people is enshitification permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xradeon@lemmy.one 57 points 2 years ago More like daily now unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] almost1337@lemm.ee -57 points 2 years ago (10 children) I'm not sure how requiring an account in addition to the Steam account is enshittification. Especially given that it was intended to be the case from the start, but they temporarily disabled it due to technical issues. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Zatore@lemm.ee 37 points 2 years ago (7 children) That sounds like deliberate deception. That's far shittier than being up front. They should have made a PS account optional. Cyberpunk does this, you don't need an account to launch the game. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] almost1337@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (6 children) There was always a banner on the Steam page that states "Requires 3rd-Party Account: PlayStation Network (Supports Linking to Steam Account)" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (5 children) You don't need one for Horizon, God of War, or Spider-Man. And I'm sure you don't need it for Uncharted or Day's Gone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Bongles@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] almost1337@lemm.ee -9 points 2 years ago (3 children) Do any of those games have multiplayer, though? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] knightly@pawb.social 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) Sure seems like Helldivers' multiplayer works just fine without a Sony account. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] almost1337@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) All of their support and controls are tied to the PSN account system, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NecroParagon@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago You're right. That's why they're being made to do this. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 27 points 2 years ago It's completely unnecessary, PlayStation accounts aren't available in many countries which would make the game inaccessible to people who already bought it if it's mandatory, and Sony has averaged a data breach every two years for the past 15 years so people don't want to give them any personal data. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 22 points 2 years ago man I think people can take things too far and act like drama queens sometimes but yeah, forcing another unnecessary account onto people is enshitification permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zatore@lemm.ee 37 points 2 years ago (7 children) That sounds like deliberate deception. That's far shittier than being up front. They should have made a PS account optional. Cyberpunk does this, you don't need an account to launch the game. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] almost1337@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (6 children) There was always a banner on the Steam page that states "Requires 3rd-Party Account: PlayStation Network (Supports Linking to Steam Account)" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (5 children) You don't need one for Horizon, God of War, or Spider-Man. And I'm sure you don't need it for Uncharted or Day's Gone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Bongles@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] almost1337@lemm.ee -9 points 2 years ago (3 children) Do any of those games have multiplayer, though? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] knightly@pawb.social 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) Sure seems like Helldivers' multiplayer works just fine without a Sony account. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] almost1337@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) All of their support and controls are tied to the PSN account system, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NecroParagon@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago You're right. That's why they're being made to do this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] almost1337@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (6 children) There was always a banner on the Steam page that states "Requires 3rd-Party Account: PlayStation Network (Supports Linking to Steam Account)" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (5 children) You don't need one for Horizon, God of War, or Spider-Man. And I'm sure you don't need it for Uncharted or Day's Gone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Bongles@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] almost1337@lemm.ee -9 points 2 years ago (3 children) Do any of those games have multiplayer, though? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] knightly@pawb.social 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) Sure seems like Helldivers' multiplayer works just fine without a Sony account. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] almost1337@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) All of their support and controls are tied to the PSN account system, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NecroParagon@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago You're right. That's why they're being made to do this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (5 children) You don't need one for Horizon, God of War, or Spider-Man. And I'm sure you don't need it for Uncharted or Day's Gone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Bongles@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] almost1337@lemm.ee -9 points 2 years ago (3 children) Do any of those games have multiplayer, though? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] knightly@pawb.social 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) Sure seems like Helldivers' multiplayer works just fine without a Sony account. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] almost1337@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) All of their support and controls are tied to the PSN account system, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NecroParagon@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago You're right. That's why they're being made to do this. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Bongles@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] almost1337@lemm.ee -9 points 2 years ago (3 children) Do any of those games have multiplayer, though? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] knightly@pawb.social 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) Sure seems like Helldivers' multiplayer works just fine without a Sony account. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] almost1337@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) All of their support and controls are tied to the PSN account system, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NecroParagon@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago You're right. That's why they're being made to do this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] knightly@pawb.social 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) Sure seems like Helldivers' multiplayer works just fine without a Sony account. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] almost1337@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) All of their support and controls are tied to the PSN account system, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NecroParagon@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago You're right. That's why they're being made to do this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] almost1337@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) All of their support and controls are tied to the PSN account system, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NecroParagon@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago You're right. That's why they're being made to do this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NecroParagon@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago You're right. That's why they're being made to do this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 27 points 2 years ago It's completely unnecessary, PlayStation accounts aren't available in many countries which would make the game inaccessible to people who already bought it if it's mandatory, and Sony has averaged a data breach every two years for the past 15 years so people don't want to give them any personal data. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 22 points 2 years ago man I think people can take things too far and act like drama queens sometimes but yeah, forcing another unnecessary account onto people is enshitification permalink fedilink source parent