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Americans Are Open To Cheap Chinese Cars. That’s 'Scary' For The Rest Of The Auto Industry (insideevs.com)
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Americans Are Open To Cheap Chinese Cars. That’s 'Scary' For The Rest Of The Auto Industry

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[–] 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I'll buy a new electric car from anyone. It just needs:

  • Over 175miles on a charge
  • To cost less than $30K
  • To not collect any data on me

My longest regular drive (few times a year) is around 75 miles each way. I just want to be able to do that without worrying about charging.
I could afford something that's $45K, but I don't want to, I don't need that much car.
And not data-mining everything I do to sell to my insurance company, is really a standard thing that should never happen.
Just about anything else I'm flexible with. And from what I've seen, it should be relatively easy to build that car.

Bonus point if I can get an actual color!
Something that's not black, white, or grey.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I believe the data mining for insurance is opt in for most if not all EVs at least currently. As for collecting your data in general? Most do that but you could always just unplug the cell modem.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The problem is opt in isn't actually opt in because they're depending on the integrity of the scummiest industry in America. They're supposed to sell you on it and they get a bonus for everyone that signs up. So what actually happens is that page gets clicked through before you know what it is.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The difficult part of this is that you'd have to have a car with 30% + 15% more range than your minimum, because your daily usage will be between 80% at full charge and 10% at lowest charge, and you will lose 15% efficiency in cold weather, snow, rain, headwinds.

    So for a minimum of 175 miles of range you really have to shop for a car with ~250 miles of range to be usable for you. I strongly believe we will see cars in the 30k price bracket with 250 miles of EPA range, but they are going to come with tech.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    75mi x2 ways, is 150mi.
    150mi x1.15 (15%), is 172.5mi.

    This also isn't daily driving. It's a few times a year at most. So the 150mi trips would pre-aranged 100% charge days.
    Daily driving is less than 50mi. Closer to 30 really. So yah, I really only need the 175 miles of range.
    The rare road trip that's longer, would be once every 2-3 years at most. I'd just rent something for those trips.

    And when I say less than $30K I mean less. Not the in $30K price bracket. The $20K+ bracket. Maybe $28 or 29K tops, if it had some killer feature I really liked.

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