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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think that's a death threat at all. Guillotines are a metaphor for the working class forcibly taking power away from the ruling elite.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is a guillotine with a reddit head in it and the name spez written on it. Just depicting a guillotine is not a death threats but depicting a person in it that exist in the real world is absolutely a death threats against that person. If that is not a death threat there is no such thing as a death threats on the internet and moderation is dead.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

A death threat is something like saying "I'm gonna murder spez". It expresses an intention. An illustration suggesting that someone could be killed does not express any intention to actually kill someone. Furthermore the image could be interpreted in other ways, like saying the user account "spez" should be eliminated, or that that spez is the kind of person who would have been killed had he been around in the French revolutionary period. No reasonable person could believe the people posting those pixels are actually making plans to cut off Steve Huffman's head with a guillotine.

I'm much more concerned about rhetoric that, for example, equates LGBT+ people with groomers, because that shit demonstrably does get people killed, and I've been told numerous times that rhetoric like that doesn't violate any rules. If moderation is dead, that's what killed it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No reasonable person could believe the people posting those pixels are actually making plans to cut off Steve Huffman’s head with a guillotine.

I agree, but the world is provably full of many unreasonable people.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Well, fuck em, and fuck spez. People can be unreasonable as they see fit, but I still maintain: Off with his 'ead! Metaphorically, of course

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's the idea behind stochastic terrorism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An illustration suggesting that someone could be killed does not express any intention to actually kill someone.

Wow. Brain just turns to literal soup as soon as the hate is directed towards someone you don't like.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So insightful. So persuasive.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So many folks taking that too literally as if it means something IRL. It doesn't, it means people want Reddit to cut Spez out as CEO. If they meant physical harm to the man, they might have said his real name.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If this was done against you or someone you liked, you would not make those arguments. If they replaced spez with a rainbow flag you would immediately identify it as a hate crime and a call to violence, because it fucking is. You can argue that spez isnt harmed by these kinds death threats and should just allow them on r/place but at least be honest with your fucking opinions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's pixels on a screen. It's a username on a mascot, not a photo with a real human name.

Can you tell the difference between a social media identity vs. an actual human?

Yes we all know who it actually refers to in real life, but the fact that it represents cutting the head off of Snoo is a metaphor meaning people would like to cut Steve out of being Reddit CEO.

Like I said to start with though, in the long run it's just pixels on a screen. Don't let it get you upset.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Words are just letters arranged in order but if I start writing racial slurs or telling people to kill themselves then I would get banned from pretty much any functional social platform.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's Snoo. Snoo isn't even real, it's a mascot. It means about as much as popping the head off of a Barbie doll.

The pixels as drawn also represent neither thing you just stated, unless there's some weird incident in history I'm unaware of where someone somehow cut their own head off..