▲ 1297 ▼ Google raising price of YouTube Premium to $13.99 per month (9to5google.com) submitted 3 years ago by fne8w2ah@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 801 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] USSEthernet@startrek.website 110 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (64 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 70 child comments replies: [–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 49 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) I'm not going to defend the price increase, but a lot of comments in here are just aimless hatred of the idea of paying anything, ever. Pound for pound, YouTube Premium has been a decent deal at $10. Has been. This is pushing it, but there's a lot of comments that seem absolutely indignant at the idea of paying YouTube period (and by extension the content creators). There's got to be some room for nuance here. The internet is plagued by advertising and paywalls, yes, but it can also not exist without them, so we find some middle ground. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Karza@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 years ago It can definitely exist without advertising and paywalls. It just going to be smaller. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MagicalPanda@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) I've been using the internet for over 24 years. I can tell you that the internet can survive without ads or paywalls. Ads and paywalls are a product of greed. Ads are way more efficient these days but many used to take up so much memory. I remember when AdBlock or whatever it was called came out. It made browsing the internet smoother. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atomWood@lemm.ee 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) The only way the internet can survive without ads or paywalls is for the person/business hosting the content to pay for everything out of pocket. A platform like YouTube could never exist without some form of revenue. I understand that there are small platforms out there, such as PeerTube, but they will never be comparable to the scale of YouTube without some form of revenue. Sure, people could grow PeerTube by spinning up their own instances, but then they need to provide their own hardware and storage. At which point you’re spending just as much, or likely more, than you would on a subscription service. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] variants@possumpat.io 4 points 3 years ago I think its possible it will just be slow and requires people to sacrifice a bit just like we are trying to do with lemmy. maybe find a different route for ads like how Brave the browser does it where it give the user the choice to see ads and give them and the content creator a cut if they agree to it, not that I trust that browser but its an interesting concept permalink fedilink source parent [–] persolb@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago Yeah. We can’t have free, privacy, and creators that eat. Pick two. (We might end up paying and getting neither privacy or paid creators… but at least it is worth the attempt to do things right.) permalink fedilink source parent [–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 10 points 3 years ago Poeple think they are sharing their enormous profits with creators. Maybe they get a few bucks from the billions. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BaldrOdinson@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's surprising to me. First moment I've thought maybe Lemmy is a worse place to be. Is there really that many astroturfing trolls here? Yikes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ado@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 years ago I can afford $13/month on my income and watch YT on a daily basis, much more than any other streaming service by a wide margain. Does that somehow make me an astroturfing troll? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZodiacSF1969@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago Yet year over year, the prices keep going up even with record inflation Well yeh, that's what inflation is... permalink fedilink source parent [–] soulifix@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't understand what shilling will earn for these people. The corps don't care about you. They never will and never have. Do these shills think there's some comfy bonus to be gained if they wave their flag around in support of greedy practices? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] USSEthernet@startrek.website 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 years ago I think what you are seeing here so far is the organic result of those dumb enough to pay this kind of money for youtube being personally offended and defending their bad decisions. We will get there but I'm not sure that this platform is large enough to be a major target for corpo bots just yet. Just dummies. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (58 replies)
[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 49 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) I'm not going to defend the price increase, but a lot of comments in here are just aimless hatred of the idea of paying anything, ever. Pound for pound, YouTube Premium has been a decent deal at $10. Has been. This is pushing it, but there's a lot of comments that seem absolutely indignant at the idea of paying YouTube period (and by extension the content creators). There's got to be some room for nuance here. The internet is plagued by advertising and paywalls, yes, but it can also not exist without them, so we find some middle ground. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Karza@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 years ago It can definitely exist without advertising and paywalls. It just going to be smaller. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MagicalPanda@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) I've been using the internet for over 24 years. I can tell you that the internet can survive without ads or paywalls. Ads and paywalls are a product of greed. Ads are way more efficient these days but many used to take up so much memory. I remember when AdBlock or whatever it was called came out. It made browsing the internet smoother. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atomWood@lemm.ee 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) The only way the internet can survive without ads or paywalls is for the person/business hosting the content to pay for everything out of pocket. A platform like YouTube could never exist without some form of revenue. I understand that there are small platforms out there, such as PeerTube, but they will never be comparable to the scale of YouTube without some form of revenue. Sure, people could grow PeerTube by spinning up their own instances, but then they need to provide their own hardware and storage. At which point you’re spending just as much, or likely more, than you would on a subscription service. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] variants@possumpat.io 4 points 3 years ago I think its possible it will just be slow and requires people to sacrifice a bit just like we are trying to do with lemmy. maybe find a different route for ads like how Brave the browser does it where it give the user the choice to see ads and give them and the content creator a cut if they agree to it, not that I trust that browser but its an interesting concept permalink fedilink source parent [–] persolb@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago Yeah. We can’t have free, privacy, and creators that eat. Pick two. (We might end up paying and getting neither privacy or paid creators… but at least it is worth the attempt to do things right.) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Karza@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 years ago It can definitely exist without advertising and paywalls. It just going to be smaller. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MagicalPanda@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) I've been using the internet for over 24 years. I can tell you that the internet can survive without ads or paywalls. Ads and paywalls are a product of greed. Ads are way more efficient these days but many used to take up so much memory. I remember when AdBlock or whatever it was called came out. It made browsing the internet smoother. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atomWood@lemm.ee 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) The only way the internet can survive without ads or paywalls is for the person/business hosting the content to pay for everything out of pocket. A platform like YouTube could never exist without some form of revenue. I understand that there are small platforms out there, such as PeerTube, but they will never be comparable to the scale of YouTube without some form of revenue. Sure, people could grow PeerTube by spinning up their own instances, but then they need to provide their own hardware and storage. At which point you’re spending just as much, or likely more, than you would on a subscription service. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] variants@possumpat.io 4 points 3 years ago I think its possible it will just be slow and requires people to sacrifice a bit just like we are trying to do with lemmy. maybe find a different route for ads like how Brave the browser does it where it give the user the choice to see ads and give them and the content creator a cut if they agree to it, not that I trust that browser but its an interesting concept permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atomWood@lemm.ee 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) The only way the internet can survive without ads or paywalls is for the person/business hosting the content to pay for everything out of pocket. A platform like YouTube could never exist without some form of revenue. I understand that there are small platforms out there, such as PeerTube, but they will never be comparable to the scale of YouTube without some form of revenue. Sure, people could grow PeerTube by spinning up their own instances, but then they need to provide their own hardware and storage. At which point you’re spending just as much, or likely more, than you would on a subscription service. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] variants@possumpat.io 4 points 3 years ago I think its possible it will just be slow and requires people to sacrifice a bit just like we are trying to do with lemmy. maybe find a different route for ads like how Brave the browser does it where it give the user the choice to see ads and give them and the content creator a cut if they agree to it, not that I trust that browser but its an interesting concept permalink fedilink source parent
[–] variants@possumpat.io 4 points 3 years ago I think its possible it will just be slow and requires people to sacrifice a bit just like we are trying to do with lemmy. maybe find a different route for ads like how Brave the browser does it where it give the user the choice to see ads and give them and the content creator a cut if they agree to it, not that I trust that browser but its an interesting concept permalink fedilink source parent
[–] persolb@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago Yeah. We can’t have free, privacy, and creators that eat. Pick two. (We might end up paying and getting neither privacy or paid creators… but at least it is worth the attempt to do things right.) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 10 points 3 years ago Poeple think they are sharing their enormous profits with creators. Maybe they get a few bucks from the billions. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BaldrOdinson@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's surprising to me. First moment I've thought maybe Lemmy is a worse place to be. Is there really that many astroturfing trolls here? Yikes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ado@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 years ago I can afford $13/month on my income and watch YT on a daily basis, much more than any other streaming service by a wide margain. Does that somehow make me an astroturfing troll? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ado@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 years ago I can afford $13/month on my income and watch YT on a daily basis, much more than any other streaming service by a wide margain. Does that somehow make me an astroturfing troll? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZodiacSF1969@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago Yet year over year, the prices keep going up even with record inflation Well yeh, that's what inflation is... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] soulifix@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't understand what shilling will earn for these people. The corps don't care about you. They never will and never have. Do these shills think there's some comfy bonus to be gained if they wave their flag around in support of greedy practices? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] USSEthernet@startrek.website 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 years ago I think what you are seeing here so far is the organic result of those dumb enough to pay this kind of money for youtube being personally offended and defending their bad decisions. We will get there but I'm not sure that this platform is large enough to be a major target for corpo bots just yet. Just dummies. permalink fedilink source parent