@Shellofbiomatter - Cheers and no worries. This has been a wonderful conversation and has highlighted key things that need to be considered in community groups and movements.

I wish you well and hope your weekend is going great!

@Shellofbiomatter - It's alright and I can understand your frustration.

If you have experienced this, then I dont understand why you used words like faith or assume. Why didn't you respond with actual examples of how things arent working out and asking for guidance on fixing them? Or at the very least pointing out the problems in your lived experiences and lamenting at feeling discouraged and beaten down without having a solution?

Your kind of reply, while it may be cathartic to you, only serves to hurt and discourage others.

If you would, and if you are able, either seek comfort in a way that doesn't hurt or discourage others, or seek solutions to those problems you are encountering.

Problems within group dynamics and collaboration are known issues with known solutions - lots of books in the library addressed to it, lots of threads devoting to discussion and application of solutions, lots of mutual aid networks that serve as support for these sort of things.

So. I hear you. And that is frustrating what you're going through. I hope are able to fix whats happening in your group activities, or join a new healthier group, or start a new group from the ground up, or contribute individually and on your own terms.

@Shellofbiomatter @stabby_cicada - "I don't have enough belief in others to assume they are doing their part"

what do you mean assume? Wouldn't you know or not know? If you are in your community doing work you would know what others are doing and what others are not doing.

I just got out of a community meeting. Neighbor A and B continue to maintain the decentralized food distribution apparatus of free fridges. They reported that they have three more neighbors that have volunteered to take on cleaning shifts. Fridge B has an issue with one of the fridges tripping the circuit breaker and they're fixing it. Fridge A's community bulletin board is now accessible because they found the lost key for it.

Me and Neighbor C are working on the Food Rescue side as one input into our local food apparatus. We just brought in a new contributor. A gluten free bakery that will be feeding into Fridge B.

Spoke to a neighbor who just lost their job and needs food but has celiac. Pointed her towards fridge B and let her know the dropoff times of the GF Bakery. She is now utilizing the local communities food system and is further supported.

Next month I'm meeting with the greater town's Hunger Action Coalition and comparing notes and collaborating with them to fill in gaps. We also just got plugged into the Food Rescue Alliance which is national and connects our town to other towns for support and education.

I know exactly who is doing their part.

Because I'm doing my part.

If you get out and do something with others you won't have to assume one way or another. You won't have to believe (or not believe).

You'll know.

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(Note to others reading this: this is directed at someone who has claimed initiative failure via vibes without demonstrating any actual experience.

We do what part we can as and when we can. Interestingly, if you can't contribute - even receiving aid and support without currently putting back in helps the entire system of mutual aid. Drawing on the support of your neighbors is everything.)

#solarPunk

@django @linux_gaming - You might look into taking one of the sim citites and intentionally building it car free (example: https://community.simtropolis.com/omnibus/simcity-4/tutorials/how-to-make-a-roadless-city-r89/)

You can use all mass transit forms except for busses (as building for busses would also allow for cars): https://simcity.fandom.com/wiki/Mass/_transit

Here is one discussion of someone building similar: https://www.reddit.com/r/simcity4/comments/g0cwic/my/_first/_serious/_attempt/_at/_making/_a/_city/_with/_no/

You would focus on renewable energy: (see multple variants both current to our world and future tech: https://simcity.fandom.com/wiki/List/_of/_power/_plants )

Look into various libraries and community centers and mods etc.

@alxd - Oh you made it!!! Wonderful!!!!

@SolarPunker - Fully agree with that.

@Elorageuse @poVoq - it is, but when you are spreading a message you have to go to where people are.

@thisfro - Yeah! That's solarpunk! 😂 Degrowth, mutual aid, decentralized and localized economies, anti-capitalism, social justice, ethical and thoughtful approach to technology, climate and ecological sustainability, etc et al. What you're describing is solarpunk.

@LibertyLizard - I think it was a bit the other way round. Solarpunk started as an idea. Just the "I'm tired of dystopian scifi. I want utopias that address pragmatic concerns and show us a way out of this current situation."

Then folks started to collate ideas on how to make that work and found that various anarchic philosophies already addressed it.

@LibertyLizard @poVoq - Here you go:

"What is Solarpunk?" by Andrewism including
"A Brief History of Solarpunk" and "The Politics & Art of Solarpunk"

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/saint-andrew-what-is-solarpunk

#solarpunk

@AEMarling - Cheers! Just put it in! (Screenshot of request below... but not sure if you can see it in the Lemmy UI - You'll have to click on this reply's link to view it on the Mastodon page for the screenshot)

@AEMarling - My library needs (or prefers) an ISBN. Do you have one for this book? I only found the Barnes and Noble number.