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[–] 293 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Whoever thinks suggesting crypto to family members is a good idea deserves the hate.

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  • [–] 83 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Unless they hate their family and want to see them come crashing down in a ball of fire and misery, finally getting what they deserve for decades of pain they themselves created

    ...why are you looking at me like that

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  • [–] 54 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I did when family asked me. I said it's a good way to play with spare cash that you have no qualms about losing. That it's the most volatile place you can put your money, either making a few bucks or losing it all

    That's how everyone described crypto, right?

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago

    My mate made 15k the other day from investing in a shitcoin. Then he told us about all of the other shitcoins he invested in that went to zero.

    Overall he does make a profit, but that's with a lot of knowledge in the sector and a lot of understanding that you're going to lose far more often than you win.

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    [–] 126 points 2 years ago (17 children)

    I could shame OP for falling for the crypto hype but I think the more important lesson here is to never ever mix family and finances.

    Even if you know for 100% fact that you have a slam dunk investment, it’s not worth it. Money corrupts.

    Never loan money, even if you don’t expect it to get paid back. It creates a power imbalance. Envy and resentment for you having money is better than creating any financial ties.

    Never go into business with family.

    Don’t mix finances and family. Family is more important than money.

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  • [–] 44 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Yes, times a thousand. But I would go even further.

    Never give investment advice. You might explain what investments you have made and why you made them, but never give advice and never urge or prompt someone to invest. You should also end every conversation with "but that's not advice and I'm not an expert." It is too easy for either the investment to not work out, or for them to do it wrong (wrong timing, panic sale, misunderstood the options, etc).

    The last thing you want on your conscience is someone investing a life changing amount of money just for it to go down in flames. I might invest $1000 in something that I think might pay off, tell someone they should invest, and next thing you know they drop in $40k and panic sell on a dip in two weeks, when I was planning to hold for five years. You never know.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Honestly, this kind of goes for everything that's more complicated than average people can understand. (By "average" I mean "anyone not familiar with this particular knowledge." I have in depth IT knowledge but very weak automobile maintenance knowledge, for example. This makes me "average" when it comes to automobile maintenance.)

    I don't give out IT advice for the most part, because the number of people who will come hounding you because they misunderstood, did something wrong, or missed several steps, is too damn high. Doesn't matter that they made the choice to take initiative to do it on their own, now it's your fault for suggesting it when their PC blows up in their face.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    Disclaimer: not financial advice, also the stuff mentioned here is specific to a certain country and to my mom's situation.

    I'll share a slightly uplifting story I guess? My mom has asked me for advice after she asked me what I was doing with my money and found out I was doing well with it. It wasn't unsolicited advice so that probably helps. I don't have some crazy life hack or some crypto scheme. I just presented her the facts that stock market indexes (NASDAQ specifically) tend to avg around 10% YoY and it's an ok investment if you don't need the money for the next 5 to 10 years at least. I also disclosed risks and suggested bonds if it's too risky or at least open a high interest savings account with an insured bank (FDIC or CDIC).

    I helped her set up a bank account with a bank that offered competitive high interest savings account and she agreed to the risk so we dumped the rest of her extra money into index funds. She's up 20% since she started so she's happy.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Honestly in my other comment I said never give investing advice, but as far as it goes, recommending investment in indexed funds is probably there exception with the caveat that it is a multi-year investment and there are dips.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Imagine suggesting that and they dump 20k and two month after the index does - 10% and they panic and sell.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Right. Which gets us full circle, to never give investment advice, lol. That being said, at some point someone may sincerely look too you for guidance and you need to make a call as to whether you want to take that risk, what advice you give, and are you sure it is good advice.

    I used to mentor student employees years ago, and when they wanted advice I always told them to max out workplace matches first, and then after that if they can save more, put it in tax advantaged savings programs that let you buy into indexed funds and never sell. In those cases you usually can't even sell unless certain conditions are met and you sign disclosures, unlike most brokerages. Now, students you are giving them advice for the rest of there life and they likely don't have $40k to panic sell/buy/sell to zero.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago*

    Lmao. Yeah you have to be careful to make sure they understand the risks. They need to understand 10% average YoY is not the same as 10% every year. I've no background in finance so I don't know if I know enough to make sure I gave her the best advice but it was based on my understanding and prior experience.

    Also, I think a friend of hers was trying to get her to sell covered calls. While well intentioned and technically low risk, it's complex. If you screw anything up setting up the covered calls it can end disastrous. Also it will complicate your taxes.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Family is more important than money.

    Wanna buy an extra brother, then? I've been having compatibility problems with one of mine for over 37 years now and am looking to downsize.

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  • [–] 109 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    My last boss told all his employees to invest in crypto, and I believe all of them put a substantial amount into it. He was a country hick who worked machine repair beside me at their shop. Thought he was hot shit because he was a member of a Facebook Q group and thought he was smarter than everyone else because he "knew secrets on a deeper level". Okay bud.

    I left before the end of the year because he stopped scheduling me over a comment I made about another one of his fucking insane conspiracy theories he liked to spout instead of helping with the workload.

    Then the crypto crash happened. They went out of business 8 months later. Can't imagine why!

    Eat shit, Wayne. Those gals and that kid working under you deserved better, you cunt.

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    [–] 45 points 2 years ago

    "This is why we don't love you."

    "Fix it."

    Ah yes, very convincing language, I'll get right on that.

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  • [–] 41 points 2 years ago

    YTA - You deserve it

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago* (8 children)

    I would never, ever suggest anyone get into crypto. It's far too volatile for any type of reasonable investment scheme.

    The only reason I even have crypto is so I can donate to the private torrent sites I am on.

    Crypto isn't outright evil, but you really should only use it if you have things to use it for, and aren't trying to game the system to get rich quick.

    Honestly, anyone playing such "get rich quick" investing games with crypto needs to be honest with themselves that maybe they've got a gambling problem.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Honestly, anyone playing such “get rich quick” investing games with crypto needs to be honest with themselves that maybe they’ve got a gambling problem.

    Gambling is what it is. Putting your life savings in it is stupid, but if you put a bit in, it's a better gamble than putting it on the horses.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago*

    Agreed, which is why I labelled it a "problem." I go gambling very rarely, but sometimes I do when I have a spare $80 that I don't mind pissing away. But once that $80 is gone, I'm done, and I stop. I also stop when I've made at least 200% profit (I've very rarely made it that high). It's a good point to stop if you want to do well the few times you do win.

    Gambling isn't the problem as much as the addiction to it and an industry which purposefully makes it more addictive.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    There are much better reasons to not love me, mom!

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago

    Buy the dip, mamma paperhands could have averaged down.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago

    Fake texts and a confirmation bias. One hell of a combo for people in the comments.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    "Fix it" lol shouldn't have invested in a crypto scam currency if you couldn't afford it

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    [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Damn and here I am trying to keep my family away from crypto

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    [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    DWAC stocks will skyrocket any day now. You should invest.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm failing to muster up some sympathy here

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