I have no idea what there is not to understand about this...and why it's mostly men complaining about "protecting women's spaces", lol.

This might upset some people, and you know what? Good.
If this upsets you, at least the others will know and the trash can take itself out.

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[–] 1 point 27 minutes ago

Hello based dept.

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  • [–] 26 points 7 hours ago (1 child)

    why it's mostly men complaining about "protecting women's spaces"

    It is called paternalist protectivism and it is a form of blatant sexism. Trump himself said "I am going to protect women (ie from trans women) either they want it or not".

    It is the same form of disregard for consent we usually call "rape culture".

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    Trump himself said “I am going to protect women (ie from trans women) either they want it or not”.

    I think this was him ensuring the girls he/his kids/future generations rape(d) were/won't be transgender.

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  • [–] 56 points 12 hours ago (1 child)

    the notion that trans women are disruptive in the bathroom is so mindbogglingly absurd considering we spend all our lives trying to be as invisible as we can in the bathroom or not using public bathrooms at all out of fear.

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  • [–] 30 points 12 hours ago (14 children)

    One of the things that scares me about the bathroom ban is now cis male predators can enter bathrooms saying they're trans men. If we just play the numbers... there's way more men than trans people. The risk is greater.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

    The goal is also for cis women to suffer. They hate all women.

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    Never forget that transphobes targeted a cis woman, Imane Khelif, who won gold at the Olympics. Many of the more prominent ones stand by their bullying years after.

    It's always been about making women they view as lesser suffer.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 hours ago

    No, trans men face harassment too. This narrative is completely made up. No trans person imposes themselves onto a public bathroom before they get mocked at the birth-sex bathroom.

    So I was saying trans men face harassment too, and this is because they don't want AFAB to transition into men. It waters down their fantasized supremacy, shrinks the dating pool for incels, and takes a number of wombs out of the production of new slaves and soldiers.

    The narrative also helps to bully non-traditional women too, so there is no logic in it save male supremacy. It seems deceptively centrist and palatable because they poured billions on propaganda research to get it right, but there is not an iota in this narrative that isn't carefully designed to install male chauvinist dictatorship.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

    This sounds absurd on the face of it.

    Then I think about how awful these loud and proud transphobes are, and then I’m just sad realizing there’s WAY more than a non-zero chance of them patrolling bathrooms in their zealous crusade. Or just to use it as an excuse to assault women.

    Fuck.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 child)

    This is not a probabilities issue. There have been a number of incidents, and they all follow the same pattern:

    It is the transphobes who follow around actual or imagined trans people around malls, and confront them even nowhere near toilets. They tend to say "I will prevent you from going into a female bathroom, to protect women and children". Then they text their friends and soon there is a number of people surrounding outnumbered trans people.

    There have been beatings like this, in one case they even charged the trans person. It seems they had the original perpetrator on paper but as soon as they found out the victim was trans they struck through the name and charged the trans person instead.

    I won't go into how the current situation in the US waters down the right of self defense for trans people, because it wasn't the original topic. But it happens. About your actual point: pogroms will now be an everyday reality in the US, to the surprise of none.

    Transphobes and their centrist enablers are criminals. Genocide perpetrators more specifically. They aren't innocent or misled. We all got the same lesson that scapegoating leads to pogroms and genocide. They just hate trans people enough they don't care to be nazis.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago

    To be clear, I am not surprised and know of far too many such incidents of transphobes either harassing women near/at/in restrooms and trans women being arrested for self defense in cases where they CLEARLY were the victim.

    Pogroms will happens. Giant piece of shit Martin Niemöller mentions trade unionists and Jews in his poem, but nary a thought for trans victims of the nazis… one of the earliest groups targeted.

    It’s not IF they come for our trans brothers and sisters, but when.

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  • [–] [S] 18 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

    Exactly. This stuff is terrifying. These bans really don't "protect" anyone. It's almost like protection isn't the point...

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