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[–] 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This is true. But VLLM's quantization support (as outlined in the article) is quite primitive.

Thats not what its built for. Its made for maximum speed with many concurrent users, not cramming LLMs into a desktop rig.

If you are running an LLM for personal use, you are usually better off with a backend optimized for higher fidelity quantization, like MLX DWQs, exl3, ik llama GGUFs and stuff like that.

If you want raw speed on a desktop, use one of the ninfer project branches.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    inari@piefed.zip: Are you a bot? You are posting multiple times every hour of the day.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (89 children)

    If you ascribe any level of sentience or intelligence to a computer, you definitely feel much less dumb than you actually are.

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    [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Having used these extensively, I can say with confidence that they feel exactly as dumb as they are.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Do you mind sharing what models you used and what your experience was? In my opinion the Qwen 3.6 models or maybe the 3.5 were the first local models that were actually useful, but I don’t have that much experience.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    This really killed a wish to run local LLMs. So fiddly...

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Not any more than any other local service. Ollama makes it really easy to get started. The ministral models are small but still useful.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children)

    https://sleepingrobots.com/dreams/stop-using-ollama/

    And thats just the tip of the iceberg.

    Also, while Minstral is fine, it is pretty much obsolete...

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I'm just saying it's a really easy way to get started, without being overwhelmed by formats and quantizations and top-k and stuff. You run it, it goes, then you can move to something better.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago*

    Its sleazy software, and IMO its defaults provide a really terrible 1st time experience. It convinces 1st time users that locally run LLMs are terrible, and goes out of its way to be incompatible with other stuff.

    I think LM Studio would be a much better "1st time" recommendation. Its not perfect either, but its lightyears better, not an active con like ollama, and its smoother to "graduate" from it to croco.cpp or llama.cpp or something.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago*

    Pretty funny. Most of this article was saying that ollama sucks now and they're just popular because there were one of the first. Personally I started with them, too, but constantly ran into issues with them. I've have much better experiences with jan, open web UI, and LM studio. The first two are foss, and the second properly attributes their use of open source projects, unlike ollama.

    Edit: nevermind, it's the link below me. It's still early in the morning, my bad

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