Take a look at this. A Tesla Robotaxi in Austin pauses, seems to reconsider a right-hand turn through some bollards, and then decides: "I’m just gonna send it."

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[–] 27 points 1 month ago (30 children)

Question: what value do self driving taxis add to regular taxis? I can't think of any. All that money poured into something that solves no problem at all and just creates more, killing human jobs in the process. It's so stupid.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    The claim that they can undercut human driven taxis I guess, but then as all enshittified services it won't stay true. They would only do that until people have become used to them then jack up the rates far beyond what cabbies ever were

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    I can see the value of data networks. If every car on the road is self driving and interconnected, they know where every other car is and can cooperatively adjust their speed and routes to basically eliminate traffic. Even if it's just every car in a taxi fleet, they can still share their sensor data to build a better operating map from multiple angles. The privacy side of that is rough, but it could drastically reduce accidents compared to individual human drivers.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    The theory is that you can own a fleet of robotaxis while you have a job without the hassle of maintaining vehicles or employing drivers.

    The fact that all self drive taxis are company owned and no plate owners will touch them tells the real story.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Regular taxis kill a lot more people

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  • [–] 1 point 4 weeks ago

    That's just Tesla, and that's because musk is a moron and forced them to go optical sensors only.

    Waymo, on the other hand, is significantly safer than humans. Although that is a pretty low bar to clear since humans are awful at driving.

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    [–] 16 points 1 month ago

    If it'll mow down bollards, it'll mow down toddlers. It can't distinguish between the two.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    Can we train it to do this with ALPR cameras?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Tesla is giving robo-taxis a bad rep. Why is Musk so insistent on optical-only? Sunk cost fallacy? Even the increased processing power required alone could probably already offset the more expensive LIDAR, not to mention the research and loss in revenue.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 weeks ago*

    I used to be real hyped about self-driving cars. I thought it would be just the answer we needed to our profound lack of public transportation. But after they took off the LIDAR system, it just became a money grab. And what was I thinking anyway? Self-driving cars? the answer to no public transportation? As if you'd want one of these cheap systems in charge full of a BUS of people?

    My ex-wife was right. Shoulda just went with fucking trains. But we can't, because an ego-maniacal billionaire wants to be a trillionaire. Reason #4,506 of why I hate living in the United States

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  • [–] 4 points 4 weeks ago

    I watched a clip recently of someone pointing out how many deaths by vehicles we normalized, we accept.

    This reminds me of that. If this is the standard, seems like only a matter of time until people get hurt (ignoring past safety record of Tesla locking people in burning cars and auf anyway).

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    Would be the ultimate irony if a robotaxi mows down Elon Muskuito.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    *flex posts. Comments on reddit locate it here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/VZRjSc325Kg7Vpq17

    Yeah it shouldn't have gone in there because of the white line. But shouldn't there also be at least one other flex post there blocking it?

    Either way, at least it managed to get out appropriately.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I'm honestly surprised that a Tesla Model Y fit in this gap. Maybe it ran over the first bollard a bit?

    Looks like so.

    Edit: And, IDK, "managed to get out appropriately" in this case would unfortunately mean throwing it in reverse and doubling back through the cross-walk, I think. It's never a good idea to run stuff over to get where you're going.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    I was just looking into this a bit more, “managed to get out appropriately” is potentially actually going through the bollard after it fucked up.

    It broke the law going in there, but reversing through the intersection (crosswalk) to get out is also against the law in Austin and many many places.

    I know a lot of people do it (and I think I've seen a Tesla do it before too) but if you're stopped at an intersection and you fuck up and are slightly in the crosswalk, you're in most places, not allowed to back up. If you back up, you could actually be cited for 2 infractions, one blocking the intersection, and then another for the backing up. (edit: and in this case, it's just a matter of property damage if they go over it, and they're plastic because they know people will hit them, which is also sad)

    I really doubt the car was smart of enough to realize I'm not allowed to reverse, and i could safely drive over this though. I think something else in its decision making process happened with failures all over the place.

    I can't wait to see what the NHSTA report on this one says, hopefully there's some meaningful info in it.

    Maybe we'll even hear it called home for help and a person drove it over? There was one report where a support person remotely drove it into a chain at slow speed.

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