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Corporatism (thelemmy.club)
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[-] mineralman@lemmy.ml -4 points 4 hours ago

No, they do it to point a finger at a root cause anyone can identify.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 hours ago

the root cause is capitalism

[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

It's hard for people raised thinking this system is the best to understand that corporatism is just one of many symptoms of the disease that is capitalism. This is all just part of the prognosis.

[-] Jentu@lemmy.ml 33 points 16 hours ago

Or when "corporatism" doesn't work, they'll just make up words like "leveragism"

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 29 points 15 hours ago

anything but admitting that capitalism is working exactly as intended

[-] SirSmoothAES@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 15 hours ago

Or they'll say "crony" capitalism as if that is somehow a qualitative difference.

[-] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 15 points 15 hours ago
[-] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago

Seeing how correct Marx was about everything, he really understood how history moved. IE, Marx is the real Psychohistorist

[-] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 13 hours ago

Gorillion dead vuvuzela tankie

[-] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 13 hours ago

"We don't need socialism, we need stakeholder capitalism".

[-] sunsofold@lemmy.zip 12 points 19 hours ago

Or because they recognize that optics affect the reception of the message and with America pumping out decades of anti-communist propaganda during and after the cold war, using Marx's language will get you ignored at best by a lot of people.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

Optics

We shouldn't concede defeats to the anti-communist witch hunters in any field, especially language. To do otherwise would be implicitly accepting their worldview as the correct one. Instead we should dismantle the weak supports for their anti-communism / anti-marxism in the first place, which isn't difficult for any person whose attention can be drawn to the mass suffering capitalism causes.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 38 points 18 hours ago

Meanwhile in the real world, even libertarian cato institute found that communism and socialism are popular among anybody who's not a fossil https://www.cato.org/blog/new-poll-nearly-half-americans-dont-know-what-americas-250th-celebrating

Not only that, but the numbers are rising since their poll last year https://www.cato.org/blog/young-americans-socialism-too-much-thats-problem-libertarians-must-fix

So, it's pretty clear that there is no optics problem in practice. The reality is that liberals are just opposed to socialism because they represent the left wing of fascism.

[-] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 15 points 15 hours ago

I sympathize with this argument, but think that it's relevance is mostly behind us. People will only believe what they're told to believe and hate what they're told to hate as long as they buy in to the ideology, as long as their ruling class provides enough comfort to keep them satisfied and distracted. Now that capitalism is failing to do that, people are explicitly looking for alternatives, and in a time like this it does us no favors to hide. Now is the best time to be an out and proud communist.

[-] sunsofold@lemmy.zip 6 points 12 hours ago

We're in the tail. The cold warriors are dying, but not dead. Their legacy will remain for a while longer.

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