I've been trying to capitalize on the commotion about all this in /r/privacy to bring more people to Lemmy. I've converted at least one redditor already!
It should be dependent on the sites offering adult material to have an account with a login. All other non-adult sites keep operating as before and kids can peruse freely. If a kid steals a password that's a kid thing, not a system thing. Nothing is foolproof and people get slapped in the face with shit they don't want to see all the time. Education and proper implementation is the key, not restriction and censorship.
Adoption is perhaps the impetus needed for common sense to prevail. If everyone keeps spending all their money at a partcular casino, they aren't going to change a thing. But if everyone stopped coming, you can be damn sure they start looking at what they can reform. Nothing improves if people don't start to care about the security of their PII. That's a huge rock.
Yeah. For sure. Nothing is simply black and white anymore. Lots to consider.
For one, they want all our data, they want to know all we do online.
For other, they found out children who grew exposed to people's opinions online grows more critical that kids that grew on they caged propaganda. Not good for their business to have citizens that can actually think.
So your take is that social media is actually good for kids? Any citation for this?
Without access to that the children view of the world gets limited by what their parent's and their government said. It's just basic logic .
Anyway if you want to talk in papers,
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK594763/
This says that social media have both GOOD and BAD effects on kids and teenagers. Both.
While this is obviously bad, I don't think there's ever really a total win or loss when it comes to this stuff. It's a constant fight. They'll bring shit like this in and it'll seem hopeless, then someone will bypass it and it'll go back and forth. Same as ad blocking or DRM or countless other things.
It'd be nice to not have to deal with it in the first place, but we'll deal with it sooner or later I'm sure.
I hate EU. Nothing but bad news from them.
There is a difference between psyops that make you think EU only does bad things and reality. EU has been the most successful peace project in history. It has lifted millions of people out of poverty too. There will always be political tensions and work to be done. We can never rest on our laurels but if you honestly believe what you wrote, then congrats you've been brainwashed by the Epstein class.
As an American, I envy their news
I don't know where u live but EU brings good things too. Go and ask the Brits who are mourning the departure they voted for 10 years ago. Of course there are a lot of things that could be improved but that is the responsibility of us citizens.
African folks love the kindness of Europeans.
African folks love the kindness of Europeans.
... is a statement which, even if correct, contributes absolutely nothing to the current debate. Feel free to open your own thread about it.
It's not an age restriction. It's a mandatory ID for everybody. They know we hate them, and are afraid. Perhaps they should make a law against killer drones instead.
So how is that going to work exactly?
Facebook is easy, you force the company or block it.
But how about, say, Lemmy, or other self hosted places maybe where where people do use their real names? How is any of this supposed to work?
But how about, say, Lemmy, or other self hosted places
Well... how many Lemmy instances are hosted in the EU, Canada, USA, Australia, UK, ...? They can be threatened under the full power of the state, unless they req ID checks.
OK, you may say, just use one in Tuvalu! But someone below mentioned it. Govs will not think, gosh darn it! I guess we got foiled by those rascally nerds! Pack it up guys, we lost! No, they will double down. They will create national firewalls. VPN bans. Already the UK, and Utah in the USA are pushing for VPN bans. They will make examples of people, to deter the rest.
It's very hard to solve political probs with technical methods.
Literally 1984. Those who will refuse to sell their private info to big capitalist will be limited, thus they will be information restricted.
Not even close. This will fragment the internet and take power away from surveillance capitalists. A huge amount of people will simply disengage from the Epstein class brainwashing. I'm looking forward to it. The internet used to be way more interesting and fun when it was fragmented.
Maybe more akin to Brave New World, and the "savages" who don't live in the fucked up society they created.
Just minus the soma holidays
Can we not stay up to date with what is happening without owning a social media account? I think the only thing we are missing is social media trends that change frequently.
Should be banning endless manipulative opaque algorithmic presentations for everyone.
Yeah. Honestly. For platforms like Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, mandate chronological feeds of only people you have followed, paginated at like 30.
And mandate they integrate with interoperability standards like activitypub etc so if they start manipulating feeds then we can just exit stage left without losing contact with people we like.
But... That would force them to provide a great user experience in order to retain users!! That's an unacceptable burden on the largest companies in the world!!
Require age verification only if you want to get algorithmic recommendations. That way you can still engage in the social internet anonymously as an adult.
The recommendation algorithms give American big tech way too much political sway in Europe and ideally they should be banned entirely, but age verification at least gives the appearance that this is "for the children" and not something with (justifiable) political motivations.
But its not age verification thats actually being implemented. It's identity verification mislabelled to take advantage of dumb legislation with yet more privacy over reach.
Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
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