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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Looks good.

For anyone else out there thinking about doing this...the most dangerous part of this job was soldering those wires onto the batteries. That is about the only dumb thing I see here.

The required heat to get the solder to flow means the batteries get hot. Not typically a good idea to be standing over something you are heating past it's max.

This requires something called a spot welder. Op chose risk over $. It'll be better just just buy a ups if you don't have a spot welder.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's why I used battery holders and soldered wires into holders.Then inserted batteries into holders.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I see it looks like they are soldered to the batteries. Great work...good project

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Finally made an UPS for my both Router and ONU. Now I'm enjoying internet without interruptions.

Inspiring job. Well done. My mind is blown. Until now, I've never considered making my own UPS.

Something I'm not quite understanding: how does the power get out to the equipment that the UPS is powering? Did you hack together some barrel connector to barrel connector cords; eliminating the need for the router and the ONU's wall warts?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Which part of this is ups circuit? Does it switch over to battery, or load sharing?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Instant switch between battery and grid power because of 1N5822 Schottky diode. Circuit is very simple. Main 15v dc (positive) with 1n5822 connected directly to output switch. 15v dc connected to xl4015 board red one. Xl4015 connected to bms input output points. BMS's extra input output connected to XL6019 boost converter. Xl6019 output with 1N5822 diode connected with switch n output. I recommend adding a extra switch between XL4015 output with bms connection .

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

How long will it last on that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

APC engineers will be slapping their foreheads on this one :p

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Does it have a low voltage disconnect? Because it's not good for batteries to be pulled too low.

I got my DC UPS from AliExpress for not much, but it's interesting to see something handmade.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

it's does have a low voltage disconnect cause it's the BMS job to protect the battery and circuit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I also Like DIY but at this time and Age, getting a 30W type C USB-PD charger, 30W Type C USB-PD powerbank, and a type C 12V activator/adapter woukd be My way to do it. Easier to replace by buying an over-the-counter replacement. That way I can also instruct someone else to buy and replace stuff Without me. It gets tiring to fix things yourself because people dont Even recognize basic electronics. And I can use a 15V type c adapter or 5V for other Network equipment Like an Asus router or a low-power tplink switch.

Another way would be a fast enough charger, to a powerbank that can do passthru, and a dual-head 5-to-12V2A adapter.

But still pretty cool. I remember Building a powerbank Full of AAs and a Couple of LM7805 to give 5V2A to My PSP. Good times.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yes little bit of Diy stuff is good and exciting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Both options are nice. Some of us out gluttons for punishment 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No way is this working as an ups. It may work as a back up for voltage drop, an ups works as a sure protector, monitors incoming voltage, power conditioner and battery back up. 2 12v 7ah is barely enough for a few devices. Most take 4 to handle the wattage. Be safe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

UNINTERRUPTED POWER SUPPLY. Diode I used is 1N5822 Schottky diode superfast n no delay.very low voltage drop.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Nice. Which tutorial did you follow? I've seen a few on the web.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean, good thought. But you couldn't pay me enough to put this in my home. Former electrical engineer a lifetime ago, this is not safe. At all. A plastic, ungrounded box. You did a good job on the shrink-wrapping, you still have a lot of exposed connections. 15v2a isn't that high, but still a short to ground or a Li-ion battery run off, you're going to have a very bad day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I would think a grounded box would be much less safe here. In plastic if a wire comes loose there are no repercussions

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Wow, I didn’t know 18650s go all the way up to 3800 Mah

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

21700 can go to 5000mah

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Surprisingly there are some cells up to 4000 mAh now, independently tested.

But I'd still be skeptical of anything I haven't tested myself. Far too many fakes on the market, and it's really easy to rewrap with a faked label.

That said, if the pack as a whole works well enough for /u/Harenraj56's purposes, then the true rating doesn't necessarily matter. Could still be a good idea to test for balancing purposes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Loved it! Is there any similar product commercially available to buy? Any link?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Great idea, unfortunately whenever I lose power, I also lose Internet to my house, so a UPS wouldn't do me any good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Check out the Pico UPS and other devices they sell. Looks like you've hit all the big parts out- I'd suggest adding some large accumulation caps on the output just to carry over sudden surges but otherwise- AWESOME!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Power outages doesn’t effect the node or central connection for the area ?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Node or central connection is not in our area. Grid power different and they also have inverter for the system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hey mate can u build one for me I’d pay you surly

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Circuit is very simple,you can easily build it . If you want I can send you the tutorial link

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

How long does it last?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Lol I thought these were AA’s at first.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Except when the power goes out so does any ISP's internet. Unless you are satellite?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

ISP use different power grid's power and they has inverter and generator too .