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Why cant I see all all communities of PieFed from a Lemmy instance? (t.feddit.org)
submitted 6 months ago by to c/piefed_help@piefed.social
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Hey there!

Already posted this on the instance itself, but there seems no explanation on why I can see one community, but not the other - no matter what I'm looking for.

Might this be a Lemmy←→PieFed problem?

Flagged as NSFW, because the link will then refer to NSFW communities.

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[–] 11 points 6 months ago (16 children)

Communities only get populated after someone on your instance subscribes to that community.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago* (11 children)

    Plus I don't think they'll show up in the Community search, unless someone first (once) adds them via Add remote community and makes the instance aware of its existence.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    To the OP: basically ActivityPub quirk, no instances proactively import remote contents, first having to have someone request that information, and how the "request" happens, depends on the software

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 6 months ago (9 children)

    Ah ok, I might understand, thanks for explaining!

    So how am I supposed to add this? I'm still new to the Threadiverse.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (8 children)

    Been a while since I used Piefed, but at least ~1 year ago, iirc first you import the community as hendrik said, then you go to the other search page and search for the post using its original url, which always is from the OP's instance, not the community's.

    However, 1 year in software development is a lot, so there's a chance Piefed's far less analogical now, and thus the paragraph above may be outdated.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 6 months ago (7 children)

    So the importing is being done on what end? I cant find an import on my instance.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Ah, forgive me. Thought you were on Piefed. 😣

    ahem From your Lemmy instance, go to feddit.org/search, put the post's link in the search bar, hit enter and wait a little. That way, the post and the skeleton of the community get imported, and following the community lets new posts get imported.

    Alternatively, if you want to find just the community, not any specific posts, community mentions help too, e.g. here would be !piefed_help@piefed.social ([!piefed_help@piefed.social](/c/piefed_help@piefed.social)), which you click to get redirected to the given community. Mentions you can find "in the wild", through discovery communities, sending DMs of the mentions to others or to alt accounts, or sending the mentions to communities specifically for testing.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 6 months ago* (5 children)

    Did it on the search on the "normal" interface, as well on Tesseract for ~5 minutes. Unfortunately, search stays with no results...

    EDIT: oh and dont excuse yourself, I'm very grateful for your help

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Unsure what exactly you mean by "normal interface", but when I am on Lemmy, I do like this (Ani.Social because it's the Lemmy instance I use):

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Also these in the the attached image are the places where you get the posts' original urls, the ones that are the most likely to work in a fediverse search. And they change depending on the user's instance, e.g. your post and comment link to feddit.org, mine links to thebrainbin.org.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    Yes yes, but it doesnt show anything for the mentioned community:

    Same thing when I enter the banged version. From that instance tho, I can find other communities.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Tried searching some posts from that community on Ani.Social, logged off, logged in with NSFW off, and logged in with NSFW on. Logged off, nothing was found, while in both cases logged in, nothing was found. So my theories are either you're not logged in, or the instances aren't communicating. If it's the latter, from what I talked with the administrator of my instance, before LemmyNSFW went under, it had been refusing communication on their side due to iirc their firewall, so maybe worth bringing that to either the administration of feddit.org or fedinsfw, so they can investigate.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 6 months ago

    Ok, but with other communities on the target instance, I can interact (like upvoting, etc.)

    Could it be that only some communities are affected? If so, I'd mail my instance admin for investigation.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Wait a sec, I thought it was if someone on your instance subscribes to A community in another instance. How is the first person supposed to find a specific community without discovery?

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Piefed iirc tackles it by implementing bundles of communities by topics.

    Also there are some communities specific for discovery, like !communitypromo@lemmy.ca, !newcommunities@lemmy.world, !trendingcommunities@lemmy.cafe and !lemmydirectory@lemmy.dbzer0.com, which may help.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    How is the first person supposed to find a specific community without discovery

    I think discoverability is one of the biggest issues facing the fediverse in general and the threadiverse specifically. There are third-party sites that try to catalog the wider ecosystem of communities (like lemmyverse - click the dropdown to switch between lemmy/piefed/mbin), but relying on third-party services like that is far from an ideal solution, and it is a barrier of entry to casual, non-techie users.

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    • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Others in the thread have already explained this bit of how federation works, so allow me to provide directions for how to bring an unfederated community to your instance.

    On Lemmy:

    • Click the magnifying glass at the top of the page to open up the search page.
    • Search for the full url of the un-federated community that you want to subscribe to: https://remote-instance.tld/c/cool-community
    • Lemmy will say that there are no results found...but don't believe it, just wait on this page a little longer
    • After lemmy does some searching in the background, it should list the community below, now you can click through and subscribe to it.

    On PieFed:

    • Along the top navbar, click the Communities dropdown and select Add remote community.
    • In that form you can either enter the full url (like in the lemmy directions) or you can use the ! notation: !cool-community@remote-instance.tld
    • PieFed will reach out, find that community, and bring it over, letting you subscribe to it
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