This is exactly what i just did. No regrets. Foss everything, no mainstream social media. I love it
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Not much longer im sure. I have no reason to believe that they will continue making it possible to un/relock the bootloader considering their push for google certified only android.
This is what I'm afraid of too. I could see apps like fdroid and the ability to install custom roms being taken away within the next year or two. I hope I'm wrong but I don't have a good feeling. I need Linux phones to be a thing now more than ever.
I need Linux phones to be a thing now more than ever.
This doesn't happen in a vacuum. If you're not already, find a project and contribute towards it some way.
I assume you either mean financially or in terms of general support and word of mouth. Trust me, I wish I could be a dev so, so badly, but as interesting as code and computers are, I'm light years away from getting in there and being able to fuck with shit. I love learning about programming, but I'm not the best at actually learning it. lmao
I say, as I sit in a first level computer science class, typing this because I'm totally lost in the actual lecture.
I never know what to expect from Google. They respect open source efforts to an extent, but play Calvinball with where they draw the line. In any case, Motorola will be an option soon, maybe more. And there are other custom ROMs, albeit not as thorough as Graphene. And for me? They can't take it away now that I already did it, so I'm good for up to 7 years unless my phone breaks.
Buying new is still screwing yourself over. Buy second hand and take advantage of all the fools thinking they have to upgrade every year.
Most used pixels are oem locked verizon ones. They say unlocked, but they only mean carrier unlocked.
And the only price, you'll need to see the Google logo flash brightly every time you reboot.
From google? I got mine from second hand market
I don't trust Google hardware
What other hardware do you trust, if any?
Maybe, you could buy a Motorola as well in the near future.
https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at-mwc-2026/
I’m about to do the same … question is without the google services is it worth a pro over even an a ?
To me it wasn't. I don't think The non-a Pixels can really justify their price based on the hardware itself.
I tend to just buy a used model, I've got the 8 with graphene and no complaints, that said I do very little with my phone these days
Considering waiting to see if Motorola releases a GrapheneOs built in Razr I’d consider that. But can’t help but wonder how much they would mess up the core important pieces of Graphene for their overlords who wants AI down our throat
If you want a Pro, go with the 8, 9 if you have to. 8 still has the 2k screen, 10 is a bastardized 1080p screen
Google? Motorola https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47214645
Soon, but not yet! I needed to upgrade, can't wait until 2027 or whenever. But hoping it'll be one of their flagships, the new Razr is pretty dope specs wise.
It's why I made sure to get my newest phone used, but that comes with the risk of getting a Verizon model (in the US) which can't be bootloader unlocked. Had to return the first one I got off eBay for that reason, and the second one I made sure to ask the seller where they initially got it from.
It's wild to me that that's legal here. Devices should have to be carrier agnostic.
The only reason I don't use GrapheneOS is because of thte tight coupling they have with Google's hardware.
It's not that they have a deal with Google, it's that Google's hardware security is best bar none except maybe iPhone. And Graphene is the best way to degoogle, as counter intuitive as it may seem. They are working with other manufacturers to get these security requirements for new phones so Graphene can be put on them.
Why, because you can't afford it (reasonable), because you think it helps Google (unreasonable), because you think it's a privacy risk (unreasonable), or because it feels icky (unreasonable)?
The profits from Pixel hardware sales are a drop in the bucket for Google. I'm pretty sure the only reason it exists is so they can have insight and control over the hardware ecosystem, as without it they'd be driven by whatever Samsung wants to do.
The walled Android ecosystem is where they make the bulk of their money, and Graphene actively pulls people away from that and to something objectively better. Graphene is fully de-Googled and safe from their spyware, and exists outside of their business model. Using and promoting Graphene actively hurts Google, even if you have them $1k for a phone.
Also, there are plenty of cheap second hand pixels on ebay, and Google doesn't see a penny from those sales. Recycling is good for the planet anyways.
I'm glad that GrapheneOS exist, and it's sad that they are the exception and not the rule.
I think projects like CalyxOS and LineageOS should adopt some feature from GrapheneOS like contact/storage scopes, sandboxed Google Play Services, Network and Sensor toggles.
At the same time, I think GrapheneOS needs to reevaluate their presence in social media.
I couldn't do it myself. Ended up going Fairphone and Calyx instead. Just patiently waiting for Calyx to start releasing again.
GrapheneOS seems to feel the same way about Google: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116159602850585685
I didn't want to give google any money, so I am using a Pixel 6 I got for free at this time. Actually moved from an iPhone 15 and it does not feel slower at all with Graphene OS. I'll have to upgrade in October when support runs out though, so I'll be eying used Pixel 9a's in the summer.
I still have my CAD $210 Google credit from Google because they throtted my Pixel, and I might let it expire because I want a Fairphone instead.
Worth it. Try any Samsung phone with Google's shit and Samsung's shit on top: I swear you these one are practically unusable, like you carrying an bloated mini-ad-computer with you. A implanted bug in your teeth or ass would hurt probably less then this. Before I use any of those, I rather use a "dumb" phone again.
I really wanted GrapheneOS, but ended up with /e/OS on a fairphone because I refuse to give Google any more money.
After replacing the default launcher with Lawnchair, I'm pretty happy with it. The physical switch (remapped to control the torch) is a nice touch.
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