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[–] 112 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Everything has to be video huh? Based on the comments here, this could have been a text post with a paragraph of text.

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  • [–] 71 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Alright, so I watched the video so you guys don't have to. Here's a synopsis:

    Youtube's ad blocking is going to backfire because:

    • It caused people to stop using crappy ad blockers that didn't even work with youtube to switch to effective ones that do.
    • Drawing attention to "good" browsers and ad blockers, increasing adoption -- including people that weren't using or aware of the existence of them in the first place
    • Increased support of the people making/maintaining ad blockers. Spite driven increase in donations, subscriptions to paid ad blockers, bug reports, etc.
    • Cites the Streisand effect.
    • Analogy of how prohibition led to stronger drugs, stronger booze, etc. If you tell people they can't do something, they're more likely to do it and get better at doing it.
    • Cites how Youtube's attempts to block ad blockers is breaking older embedded apps in smart TVs, chromecast, etc. Older or non-tech people are just more likely to stop using those rather than try to fix them -- and thus cut back on watching youtube.
    • Believes Youtube's actions are an indication the internet's "free with ads" model is dying -- they're getting desperate to maintain profitability.
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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    It’s funny to me because I recently downloaded an app for my nvidia shield called smartTube which blocks ads and all that jazz. And I donated $10 to the dev. And posted to the git.

    I only did this because of the recent headlines about YouTube policies changing. I don’t mind paying for things. But I will pay someone else out of spite if you charge me too much, pester me, or take away things like that were free.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Yeah, YouTube premium is more than 10 bucks a month, not per "you think it's worth it", so the prices aren't even comparable.

    YouTube premium is fucking expensive is what I'm trying to say.

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    [–] 59 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Jesus what the hell is going on in those comments over there.

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  • [–] 86 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    triple parentheses

    unironic use of the word cuck

    conspiracy theory about Google being a fake company

    Welp.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    "((( )))"? I thought that was a crowd saying something e.g "((( that's what she said )))". Or being a really fat dude. I remember :-))) being a smiley with a triple chin.

    ((( What does this mean to some people now? )))

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Wat?

    ((( Google )))

    Jews Google? Jews say Google? Google for Jews? Google by Jews? Google owns Jews? Google is owned by Jews? Google likes Jews?

    How is that supposed to be interpreted?

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    For real. I didn't realize how bad all of the YouTube alternatives are. They are just flooded with neo-nazis and bigots. It just sucks with how we really don't have much choice other than to use something like newpipe.

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  • [+] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    In my mind it makes sense that the more extreme people tend to gravitate from public circles and tend to land in places that have less moderation and more freedom of speech unfortunately.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    There's a reason speech isn't 100% free. Yelling fire in a crowded theatre is never cool even when it's Great White, but in our eternal September someone's always lobbing the fart jokes because for their little mind it's new and cool.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    YouTube is also that way. It's just that it gets buried down by the shitload of people who use it.

    Eh to degree, but the reason neonazis and bigots seem to flock to/make up a majority of these sites is often because they're getting banned on YouTube - and these video platforms opt to survive by leaning into that instead of properly moderating their platform.

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    [–] 37 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's funny cuz I had an ad blocker that worked on Youtube for a while but then stopped working one day. That was 3 years ago and I was too lazy to find a better blocker. Since they started putting that pop up in EVERY video, that prompted me to finally install a working one. Good job, Youtube. Ya played yaself.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I could deal with the 2 ads at the beginning of the video and the end but when they added ad interruptions in the middle of 5 minute videos and had ads covering the comments on every video. Yeah, screw off YouTube.

    I just sideloaded uYou and it doesn’t even know what ads are so it never loads them. I would never had bothered circumventing the ads if they were reasonable, but they aren’t. They want everyone on premium and obviously have disdain for non-premium users. Have no zero respect for that kind of business.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)
    1. The video's comment section on its native site is... interesting.
    2. I don't trust this guy. It feels like he's just slinging things at the wall that most people could intuit without any research. Yes, sometimes things backfire when you try to stifle them. Sometimes, however, the stifling works (otherwise dictators would have a much harder time ruling). That's just the way things go.
    3. I'ma need some actual data to back up Youtube's anti-adblocker experiment succeeding/failing. People are so quick to jump on the 'it failed' or 'it succeeded' bandwagon but the truth is we simply don't know the result yet, and may not for a long while.
    4. This could've been an email. This guy's delivery is sprawling and lacks conciseness.
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  • [–] 105 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    His argument is:

    1. A lot of people were using poor adblockers.
    2. Youtube can block the bad ones but struggles with the good ones.
    3. People switch to the better adblockers (some of which require a subscription)
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  • [–] 46 points 2 years ago*

    I'm hearing first time that some of the adblockers require subscription... Like, there's ublock origin, the one and only god out there, why would you like to go somewhere else, even closed source?

    Edit: damn autocorrect

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I wonder how true that is for the average user

    My father disabled ublock because it didn't let him use YouTube. I sent hima tutorial on how to update the list and purge the cache but it was too much work for him

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago*

    Consider using VNC and simply doing the work for him. I find I just do not have the time to coach them through a document and I just do all this stuff for my parents instead. Life's too short to explain where the any key is.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Never updated or purged ublock origin. Never got the popup. Is this only regional thing or Firefox built different.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I may be wrong, but I think it has something to do with whether or not you had any custom filters enabled when youtube started cracking down on ad blockers. I also haven't seen a popup yet, but I assumed it was because I'm too lazy to go beyond the vanilla UBO install.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    No, there's an A/B implementation going on. The UBO maintainers hadn't seen the crackdown themselves and had to rely on troubleshooting reports to see what is going on which is wild to think about - both on their skill but also did google specifically whitelist them or are they exceptionally lucky

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    There is one mistake in this Video. Ublock origin doesn't accept donations the last time checked.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    "oh no, anyway" moment...

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