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[–] 231 points 9 months ago* (28 children)

As they should, stupid over complicated and absolutely failure ridden unnecessary design. kinda like this poorly worded statement

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  • [–] 70 points 9 months ago (26 children)

    Musk nearly bankrupted Tesla when he insisted that the door handles must be flush after stealing the company from its original founders.

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  • [–] 59 points 9 months ago* (24 children)

    I mean, "stealing" is a strong word. Elon bought them out, and they're both enjoying a net worth in the hundreds of million.

    What's more disturbing about Elon's tenure as head of the company is how social media manipulation, insider trading, and blatant SEC violations can pump a company's valuation into the stratosphere.

    Marc Tarpenning and Martin Eberhard both continued to contribute advances in engineering that far exceeded the Tesla project. But they'll never have the kind of easy credit Elon secured through politics and media manipulation. So don't expect to see them included among the ranks of "billionaire" any time soon.

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  • [–] 33 points 9 months ago* (7 children)

    "Bought them out" is a weak word too though. He placed loyal people on the board and had them vote to give him control of the company.

    And now he has been having them vote to give him absurd unseen before "salaries"

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    He placed loyal people on the board and had them vote to give him control of the company.

    He could place loyalists on the board because he bought a controlling interest in the company.

    And now he has been having them vote to give him absurd unseen before “salaries”

    The latest compensation package has virtually unattainable sales targets. And the compensation is almost entirely in equity that assumes a monumental increase in stock valuation.

    If he can manage it, I'd be tempted to say he earned it, except I know he'll only "hit" the target by lying and market manipulation that will collapse as soon as he hits his mark.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago* (5 children)

    Like having space x buy thousands of cyber cucks?

    Or donating those shitty dangerous trucks to the Vegas police?

    Or when his Canadian dealerships sold themselves hundreds of cars on the last week of government subsidies?

    He’s gonna cheat to get his trillion, brag about having the biggest number, and try and fuck the country even more to keep him powerful. These robber barons need to be stopped and imprisoned bodies they can harm the rest of us any more.

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  • [–] [S] 28 points 9 months ago

    I have long observed that moving parts, particularly involving motors, are destined to give me grief as a car ages. The difference is that little motorized interior luxuries aren't going to prevent people from pulling my unconscious body out of a burning wreck, while these door handles have for dozens of people

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  • [–] 135 points 9 months ago (14 children)
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    Bright headlights and combined brake/turn signals too please

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  • [–] 52 points 9 months ago* (24 children)

    Is it really that hard to make one of those recessed handles with a mechanical linkage instead of an electric one?

    Seems like the real issue is the electric door latch itself, not the style of handle.

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  • [–] 47 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    Tesla whined about it citing all the crap they’d have to work around in their design in order to make a normal mechanical linkage. Funny how no other upper tier manufacturer has trouble with all the power windows and window power pre-offsetting for interference fits. They manage to have mechanical linkages.

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  • [–] 41 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    Yeah I'm not shocked the major car company with the least amount of experience in mechanical engineering had that issue.

    Give that to a team of 90's Honda engineers and they'd have it done by lunch with a price tag a 1/3rd of the Tesla mechanism.

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  • [–] [S] 19 points 9 months ago

    These recessed handles usually have some sort of fallback. For me, I don't want rescuers to have a single second of uncertainty of how to open my car. They should be able to quickly yank the door open, not fumble for some recessed/hidden button. Every second counts.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago

    The handles themselves freeze down and won't pop up to allow someone to actually open the door. Freezing rain and sleet and prevent even traditional style handles are known to freeze up and stop working.

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    [–] 51 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Next can we outlaw touchscreens? I'm guessing they are far more dangerous in the end.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    We wouldn't even need to ban them outright. Just ban the usage for important things like windscreenwipers and climate control.

    VW thankfully is making the move backwards on their own.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    “From the ID 2all onwards, we will have physical buttons for the five most important functions – the volume, the heating on each side of the car, the fans and the hazard light – below the screen,” 

    Climate controls are one but sure, five most important functions. Honestly rip out the touch screen, implement buttons just as they had been previously then add the display; preferably with a decent HID as Mazda have done. 

    I'm still driving a mk6 golf and really can't imagine not having easy access to those features. 

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  • [–] 46 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Good, it's such an incredibly stupid design. Literally no one was bothered by a slight handle for better UX.

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    [–] 41 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Can China ban retina burning headlights, rear facing floodlights and aftermarket exhausts now?

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    [–] 40 points 9 months ago

    Musk makes a product so shitty even China is like, hold up.

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  • [–] 28 points 9 months ago (23 children)

    Must be nice having a functional government

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  • [–] 29 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Americans are going to mandate retractable handles in response

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (16 children)

    I don't think China or the US would be called nice in this regard.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (15 children)

    Well, the US is very nice to corporations which is why they’re often left to self regulate, are regulated by former industry insiders, or are barely regulated through fines and settlements

    So yeah I suppose in this regard China is not being nice but being nice doesn’t effectively regulate corporations. This is in fact a good example of a functional government doing its job

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    [–] 25 points 9 months ago

    When even China has to ban your product due to safety concerns, you've probably made some seriously bad design choices somewhere along the line.

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    As should the rest of the world.

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  • [+] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)
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