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[–] [email protected] 220 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's crazy how many people will just click accept on security warning them that an app will access literally everything on their phone.

It's also crazy how many people don't even know that Threads is Meta... where the f have these people been for the past 10 years?

[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Living with influencers in their feeds.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (2 children)

ugh. influencers are the worst. old man grumble

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've never cared for influencers, but they also never effected me personally. Until last summer... I was blueberry picking one morning with my mom. We picked 3 very full buckets and called it a day and headed for the checkout hut. We're hot sweaty and tired and just wanted to checkout and go home, but we were suddenly blocked in the middle of a row of blueberries with no way to get out! Why? Because someone was photographing a lady in a sundress and hat caressing the blueberry bushes. We ended up walking through the photo and I've never felt such "get off my lawn" sentiment before.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Lol for real though, ruining an influencer’s shot - or even better, a live broadcast - when they’re being an obnoxious asshole gives me no small degree of pleasure.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

where the f have these people been for the past 10 years?

They've been giving away their data for all that time and it hasn't visible affected them negatively.

Of course it will eventually and they'll Pikachu face then but that's hardly comforting.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Will it? Why? It won't affect most people personally ever, hence why most people don't really care.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think security warnings are kind of like cancer warnings in the state of California. If virtually everything causes cancer then warnings become just a normalized part of life.

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[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I've said this a bunch of times, but Mastodon's use of a chronological feed is what kills it. What it really needs is for the default tab to be a "trending" tab, cause that's what users want to see.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Mastodon’s use of a chronological feed is what kills it.

Funny, that's exactly the reason I like Mastodon's feed over traditional social media. No bullshit being pushed, just the people I'm following and the posts they make.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago

But twitter people love bullshit!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No algorithm designed to keep you addicted or run experiments on you.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (9 children)

The sign up process is just too confusing for most people too. I tried evangelizing it when musk took over and that was everyones response. Need like a temporary instance for new accounts that you can transfer out of once you've got your sea legs

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (8 children)

The focus on chronological feeds is what I like about Mastodon, and Fediverse platforms in general. I don’t want to be slapped in the face with what some algorithm with ulterior motives has decided I should see - I want to see the things I follow in the order they were posted.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

That’s not what I want to see.

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 year ago (25 children)

No, it's mastodon but centralized. It takes all the difficulty out of signing up for the fediverse, like finding a server. I said it from day 1 on mastodon. We will never see mass adoption until there's a simple sign up process. People like centralized because it's easier.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

I've been trying to hammer this point home.

I wish devs would wake up and create a default easy mode sign-up for the fediverse with an option to click "advanced sign-up" if you choose to do so.

The easy mode would just automatically assign an instance based upon some algorithm.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago (5 children)

There are 1 billion active users on Instagram and those users were invited to Threads using an existing account. Celebrities, businesses, streamers, etc. all popped up on Threads within the first few hours of public release.

I'm a big nerd and just learned about the fediverse within recent months. Everyone else I know who uses Twitter and Threads have no clue what Mastodon is.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

The thing I noticed right out of the gate when I went slumming on Threads is that the Android app package is 77MB. Compare that to Mastodon at 2.5MB.

Two apps that (from the user's perspective) do pretty much the same thing - make queries to servers and display pieces of text on the screen, maybe with some pictures or videos. Not that hard.

So what does that extra 74MB of bloat in the Threads app do? Meta's not telling us...

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago

I think it’s because threads is just a new front end for instagram. It’s just instagram with a twitter skin applied to it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

To be fair, Threads is almost certainly built with React Native which always leads to bigger app bundles. Not to say that there isn't anything fishy in there, but that's part of the reason.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The problem with Mastodon is discoverability. The fact that if I follow 10 hashtags, it won't sort them on my homepage, but will be fully chronological.

Say I follow #photography. The top of my homepage would be the post posted 2s ago, no matter how bad it is. It is so hard to find quality content.

Now, Threads' algorithm is pretty bad, but it's still a lot easier to find quality content there instead of on Mastodon. Mastodon badly needs sorting by Hot, Active etc like there is on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

I was listening to a podcast (by three software devs) just yesterday talking about algorithmic sorting on Threads vs chronological sorting on Mastodon. Nerds, it seems (of which I am one), prefer chronological sorting. This is because they have a community of people that they follow (I'm not using Mastodon, Threads, never used Twitter). They self-select for high-quality content. Normies, they theorized, don't have a specific group of people to follow, thus they need an algorithm to show quality content from celebs and such.

I'm curious how you self-identify and how many specific people you deliberately follow?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Unfortunately, Threads is run by a very, very shitty corporation that sees you, me, and the rest of the fediverse as a new market to expand into (i.e. fresh meat). I wouldn't blame people from defederating with them — their incentives will clearly push them to violate many instances' rules against advertising.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Don't forget the amount of data you'll be sharing, including health records

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The average Twitter user has no idea what Mastodon is.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Federation is so confusing! Why can't I just sign up at facebook.com where the rest of the internet is? You guys and your cryptofederatedarkweb.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Literally this, or the Web3 BS Bluesky.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Back to business as usual. The reality is that the majority of people can’t be bothered with privacy and other scandals from GAFAM.

The silver lining of the whole Reddit and Twitter fiasco is that more people are interested in and participating in a decentralized network. That’s a good thing for the community.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Anyone else notice the cursor on the top left?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Nah, Twitter users stay where they are. That's Instagram users seeing what Twitter is like.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

It's insane how much people actually unironically shill for Meta and Zuckerberg now because Elmo is mad. Fucking Zuckerberg...

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

I can barely find anything in Arabic on the fediverse, but on threads I can find all the relevant and local posts I want in Arabic

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Threads is the narcissism of Instgrammers and the psychopathy of Twitterers

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

I much rather use mastodon. It's so much better, despite the volume, but low volume is nice at times. Feels manageable. Being able to stick to local instances but also link to others is great. All around better model compared to centralized stuff.

Also it frees up my time to do other things.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

They ended up going back to Twitter lol

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (18 children)

If they want people to use Mastodon, then make it user-friendly and easy for the general public. I downloaded it, tried it, and was lost/confused on the whole server/instance thing and finding communities etc. Whereas Threads is pretty straight forward, it's just a Twitter clone. User experience is more important than privacy to the general public and developers need to realise you can't compromise user experience/ease of use/accessibility.

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