all 36 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[+] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (19 children)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    Guess my current pixel is my last Android.

    What then, iOS?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 18 child comments
  • [+] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    What exactly is this product, though? Does it already exist?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [+] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Wow, thanks! I only know the Fairphone...

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (9 children)
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Graphene is still based on AOSP, they could probably have a workaround for that but the main issue I can see is small projects being leftover by their devs because the majority of there users runs a Google controlled Android and thus they will be forced to verify... Some will do it other probably won't.

    I am concerned...

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 8 child comments
  • [+] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (6 children)

    Not from my understanding of the situation, Android Open Source Project (AOSP) is still Free, Open Source and living.

    What's changing is that now with Android 16 and following, Google removed the Pixel device trees from the AOSP. But still according to them, they never considered AOSP providing device trees as a hardware requirement.

    Also according to GrapheneOS team Pixel 10 has much more significant hardware changes than the Pixel 6a through Pixel 9a.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Could you provide sources please? I think it's "just" that the new commits aren't public until the release is.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    this change doesn’t mean that Android is becoming closed-source

    What will change is the frequency of public source code releases for specific Android components. Some components like the build system, update engine, Bluetooth stack, Virtualization framework, and SELinux configuration are currently AOSP-first, meaning they’re developed fully in public. Most Android components like the core OS framework are primarily developed internally, although some features, such as the unlocked-only storage area API, are still developed within AOSP.

    source code for changes will only be released when Google publishes a new branch containing those changes

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago
    [–] 3 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    So, for a Statesian that is trying to degoogle, what's the best path? Lots of restrictions on phones we can get, sadly.

  • source
  • hideshow 14 child comments
  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Fairphone seems like the best option at the moment. It uses e/os which is Android based, and you can run most of the apps on it. https://shop.fairphone.com/the-fairphone-gen-6

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 13 child comments
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Yea, might have to. My phone is aging and doesn't support LineageOS, sadly.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 12 child comments
  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    I'm still on Pixel 5 with LineageOS, but the battery is starting to go. Sadly, can't get Fairphone in Canada yet. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like any of the Linux based phones are quite ready to be a daily driver either.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 11 child comments
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I know, I was just looking into the state of linux phones last night. I'd love a genuine alternative, but I need my phone for work for things like 2FA, Teams, etc that I just can't use on linux phones yet it seems.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Yup, the app ecosystem is just not quite there yet, and google app store is still the only place for some apps you can't do without.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Still holding hope that it will get there! Huge respect to the devs for this undertaking.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Indeed, having full blown Linux on the phone would honestly be the ideal option. I'm honestly surprised that nobody tried building hardware around this idea. You could have a single device that acts like a phone, but then you could make it dockable and the dock could add more ram and a better GPU, so then you could use it like a desktop. So, you'd just carry a single device around with you all the time and use it in different modes as needed. This would also avoid the need for using a lot of online services, like the calendar, which sync data across devices. You'd just always have all your data in one place.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That's a cool perspective! Hadn't thought of it like that, moreso the utility of a purely FOSS system that can't be fucked with like Google does with AOSP.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Exactly, and it's interesting to think how so many services exist simply because we constantly switch devices. If you just have one drive with all your data on it, then the whole problem goes away. And the dock could also have a raid built in, so every time you sync with the dock you make a backup of your system, so if your drive fails you just swap the other one in and keep going. I really would love to see local first future of computing.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You can't get it from their official store though last I looked.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's correct. So warranty and such is difficult. But if you need one, it seems it's available and it seems to work on Freedom. A friend is running an FP5 on Fido.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago

    I figure I'll hold out and see if it becomes officially available. My phone still works fine for the most part, and if battery holds out there's nothing too wrong with it really.

  • source
  • parent