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[–] daerion@feddit.org 243 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Google was fine as it was before, now it does shit like this. I hate how AI is shoved down our throats. And the results on google nowadays feel so much worse and generic than a few years ago. That isn't just a feeling I have, right?

[–] Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 92 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Add obscenities to your search for the most optimized results. It drops the AI component and seems to provide the more direct results we used to get.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 38 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I just get X-rated results.

[–] Brandonazz@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Say -fuck with a hyphen at the beginning so that it doesnt search for it.

[–] Bubs12@lemm.ee 29 points 2 weeks ago

-fuck, that’s good.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

It appears you were looking for Lara Croft in the nude. I think I've found what you're looking for...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=NuFK6cLDzT4

Edit: I can provide a build script for that.

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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 62 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They’re an ad company that just happens to offer search as a way to show ads.

Their ideal scenario is one where you search forever and never find what you were looking for.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They’re walking the fine line between being shitty enough that you have to refine your search multiple times (thus allowing them to show you more ads), but not being SO shitty that you give up and never come back.

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[–] officermike@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not just you. I feel like search modifiers like "NOT" or "OR" haven't been working for a good long while either.

[–] ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] officermike@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

While it's nice to finally have closure on this, it's also depressing that they removed that.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Really? Felt like Google jumped the shark quite awhile before this even started.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 14 points 2 weeks ago

It been a downhill slope that just keeps getting steeper. They're basically falling off a cliff right now, and their parachute is improving AI.

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[–] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 104 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wouldn't removing your ovaries and fallopian tubes make you not "fertile" by definition?

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 70 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, it contradicts itself within the next couple of sentences.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As per form for these "AIs".

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[–] nickiam2@aussie.zone 73 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I think the trick here is to not use Google. The Wikipedia page for the movie heat is the first result on DuckDuckGo

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 22 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

You can also search Wikipedia directly.

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

PSA for Firefox/fork users, click the button to the left of the search bar after clicking blank space in the search bar, you'll get a list of choices besides just your primary selection. You can add more:

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[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I use duck duck go as well. I wish it wasn't just anonymised Bing search. One of these days I'll look into an open source independent search engine.

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[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 62 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It also contradicts itself immediately, saying she’s fertile, then immediately saying she’s had her ovaries removed end that she’s reached menopause.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 47 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Is it considered normal to type out a normal question format when using search engines?

If I were looking for an answer instead of making a funny meme, I'd search "heat movie cast Angelina Jolie" if I didn't feel like putting any effort in.

Then again, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I've seen someone use their phone to search google "what is 87÷167?" instead of doing "87/167" or like... Opening the calculator....

People do things in different, sometimes weird ways.

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It depends on the person in my experience.

For instance, I'll often use a question format, but usually because I'm looking for similar results from a forum, in which I'd expect to find a post with a similar question as the title. This sometimes produces better results than just plain old keywords.

Other times though, I'm just throwing keywords out and adding "" to select the ones I require be included.

But I do know some people who only ever ask in question format no matter the actual query. (e.g. "What is 2+2" instead of just typing "2+2" and getting the calculator dialogue, like you said in your post too.)

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[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

How can she be fertile if her ovaries are removed?

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because you're not getting an answer to a question, you're getting characters selected to appear like they statistically belong together given the context.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A sentence saying she had her ovaries removed and that she is fertile don't statistically belong together, so you're not even getting that.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

You think that because you understand the meaning of words. LLM AI doesn't. It uses math and math doesn't care that it's contradictory, it cares that the words individually usually came next in it's training data.

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[–] Cordyceps@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 weeks ago

And the text even ends with a mention of her being in early menopause...

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 weeks ago

NGL, I learned some things.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

People Google questions like that? I would have looked up "Heat" in either Wikipedia or imdb and checked the cast list. Or gone to Jolie's Wikipedia or imdb pages to see if Heat is listed

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[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 23 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

A statistical model predicted that "in heat" with no upper-case H nor quotes, was more likely to refer to the biological condition. Don't get me wrong: I think these things are dumb, but that was a fully predictable result. ('...the movie "Heat"' would probably get you there).

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

As a comparison I ran the same all lower case query in bing and got the answer about the movie because asking about a movie is statistically more likely than asking if a human is in heat. Google'a ai is worse than fucking bing, while google's old serach algorith consistently had the right answers.

Google made itself worse by replacing a working system with ai.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Kagi quick answers for comparison gets this tweet, but now it thinks that heat is not the movie kind lol

The AI ouroboros in action

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[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

google strips capitalization from searches

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[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 10 points 2 weeks ago

It's not just any human though, it's an actor, so movie related words should statistically be more likely.

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We all know how AI has made things worse, but here's some context on how it's outright backwards.

Early search engines had a context problem. To use an example from "Halt and Catch Fire", if you search for "Texas Cowboy", do you mean the guys on horseback driving a herd of cows, or do you mean the football team? If you search for "Dallas Cowboys", should that bias the results towards a different answer? Early, naive search engines gave bad results for cases like that. Spat out whatever keywords happen to hit the most.

Sometimes, it was really bad. In high school, I was showing a history teacher how to use search engines, and he searched for "China golden age". All results were asian porn. I think we were using Yahoo.

AltaVista largely solved the context problem. We joke about its bad results now, but it was one of the better search engines before Google PageRank.

Now we have AI unsolving the problem.

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[–] DeusUmbra@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

This is why no one can find anything on Google anymore, they don't know how to google shit.

[–] Bongles@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You've sullied my quick answer:

The assistant figures it out though:

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